Can someone explain this to me?

[joe kapp22]

39 yds rushing?

What about 32 points? Isn't that what the offence is supposed to produce no matter how they produce them?

How are Wally and Chap supposed to know what the young Wr's can do unless they throw them ball consistently?

[Toppy Vann]

39 yds rushing?

What about 32 points? Isn't that what the offence is supposed to produce no matter how they produce them?

How are Wally and Chap supposed to know what the young Wr's can do unless they throw them ball consistently?

39 yards - total offence in the first half with the Stamps doing all they could to keep the Lions in the game. 5 Turnovers = 3 points.

Those points in the second half - great but why lose an entire first half with nothing in offense?

How are Wally and Chaps to know? Practice.

I don 't agree with the Suitor comment that suggests that one rookie costs you one game lost but a lot of rookie receivers need time to develop as they will make mistakes. Why not get off the stubborn view that running is not going to be done and develop a more balanced offence.

Look at the Esks - running and passing and kicking some butt today vs Hamilton.

The Als with the best QB in the game now are not afraid to use the run and no one releases faster than AC. Why not help out Lulay who is still new and give his team more options.

Chappy gets in a rut with play calling and it showed with the bombs away.

[joe kapp22]

39 yds rushing?

What about 32 points? Isn't that what the offence is supposed to produce no matter how they produce them?

How are Wally and Chap supposed to know what the young Wr's can do unless they throw them ball consistently?

39 yards - total offence in the first half with the Stamps doing all they could to keep the Lions in the game.

Those points in the second half - great but why lose an entire first half with nothing in offense?

How are Wally and Chaps to know? Practice.

I don 't agree with the Suitor comment that suggests that one rookie costs you one game lost but a lot of rookie receivers need time to develop as they will make mistakes. Why not get off the stubborn view that running is not going to be done and develop a more balanced offence.

Look at the Esks - running and passing and kicking some butt today vs Hamilton.

The Als with the best QB in the game now are not afraid to use the run and no one releases faster than AC. Why not help out Lulay who is still new and give his team more options.

Chappy gets in a rut with play calling and it showed with the bombs away.

they also have Ricky Ray on the roster.

[Toppy Vann]

39 yds rushing?

What about 32 points? Isn't that what the offence is supposed to produce no matter how they produce them?

How are Wally and Chap supposed to know what the young Wr's can do unless they throw them ball consistently?

39 yards - total offence in the first half with the Stamps doing all they could to keep the Lions in the game.

Those points in the second half - great but why lose an entire first half with nothing in offense?

How are Wally and Chaps to know? Practice.

I don 't agree with the Suitor comment that suggests that one rookie costs you one game lost but a lot of rookie receivers need time to develop as they will make mistakes. Why not get off the stubborn view that running is not going to be done and develop a more balanced offence.

Look at the Esks - running and passing and kicking some butt today vs Hamilton.

YIKES.. just had Japanese TV station on here in Hong Kong with no sound as I am watching the game online - Tsunami warning for NE Japan for 10 am Sunday morning - half hour away (7 pm Vancouver time Saturday night).

The Als with the best QB in the game now are not afraid to use the run and no one releases faster than AC. Why not help out Lulay who is still new and give his team more options.

Chappy gets in a rut with play calling and it showed with the bombs away.

they also have Ricky Ray on the roster.

Yes and several of the past regimes in Eskville including when Chaps was his OC had made Ricky Ray look very ordinary. Now it looks like he is back. But he is not doing it alone. He has running backs and run packages to call on unlike the Lions. They did not run in pre-season and now not for two games as it doesn't work for them. It is the coaching thinking not the talent IMO.

[donefron]

not to mention Wally costing us again with the game on the line, 2 missed 2 point converts instead of 2 single point gimmes that would have tied the game & given us overtime to decide it. I love Travis but when you throw to a spot and get covered, maybe throwing to the eaxct same spot with double coverage this time might be a bad idea. at least twice last night he threw to a spot & was denied because of his recievers failure only to go back to that same spot to be denied & drive over

[B.C.FAN]

Yes and several of the past regimes in Eskville including when Chaps was his OC had made Ricky Ray look very ordinary.

These stats have been noted before but 2007 under Chapdelaine was one of Ricky Ray's most successful seasons, with a 101.6 QB rating and career-best 69.9% completion percentage. He was on pace for 32 TD passes and 5,200 yards before he was injured and forced to miss the final five games of the year.

As for the Lions' running game, it could be argued that the coaches' determination to run the ball in short-yardage situations this week cost the team momentum and points. Twice in their first three possessions, the Lions faced second and short yardage in Calgary territory and lost yardage running the ball up the middle, coming out with only three points. Overall they were 1-for-3 in short-yardage situations this week, all Jamal Robertson runs up the middle. Last week, the Lions faced second and short five times and passed every time, converting on four of them, including one for a touchdown. I suspect that if the Lions had passed the ball in those situations this week, they would have had more success and might have opened up a big early lead.

The real question is why can't the B.C. offensive line get any push up the middle in short-yardage situations. I don't have the answer. It's been that way for several years. Last year the Lions blew up the offensive line in an attempt to get more physical up front, but injuries ruined that plan before it could be evaluated. This year they blew it up again, with new starters at all five line positions. So far, it has resulted in improved pass protection but still no success at run blocking.

[TheLionKing]

The real question is why can't the B.C. offensive line get any push up the middle in short-yardage situations. I don't have the answer. It's been that way for several years. Last year the Lions blew up the offensive line in an attempt to get more physical up front, but injuries ruined that plan before it could be evaluated. This year they blew it up again, with new starters at all five line positions. So far, it has resulted in improved pass protection but still no success at run blocking.

Is it because the Stamps stacked the line ? Choosing to run straight into the heart of the defence is assinine.

[B.C.FAN]

The real question is why can't the B.C. offensive line get any push up the middle in short-yardage situations. I don't have the answer. It's been that way for several years. Last year the Lions blew up the offensive line in an attempt to get more physical up front, but injuries ruined that plan before it could be evaluated. This year they blew it up again, with new starters at all five line positions. So far, it has resulted in improved pass protection but still no success at run blocking.

Is it because the Stamps stacked the line ? Choosing to run straight into the heart of the defence is assinine.

I don't think so. Every team across the league stacks the line in short-yardage situations, especially when offences line up with twin tight ends. Most teams seem to be able to drive block.

[potbelly]

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"The running game" what does that mean? Seriously, isn't the point to put points on the scoreboard? Do rushing Td's count for 7 pts and not 6?
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Other teams seem to make use of the 'running game'. Yes, the point is to put points on the scoreboard. Rushing TD's count for 6 but often we end up taking 3 (via field goal) because we don't have a balanced attack (IMO). No, I don't think balanced means 50/50. I enjoyed when Joe Smith and then Martel Mallet would POUND defences. Even a guy like Logan who could make tacklers miss. The past two years I've gotten to sit in the Lions home stadium while some teams (Bombers via Fred Reid) just run the ball down the Lions throats. So, I'd like to see a better running game from the Lions and not so much of a running game from our opponents. I often wonder why teams don't run more often on the Lions. Sometimes teams seem to have success and then go away from it. I know running works because other teams do it to the Lions, so why not do it also?

definitely agree with focus on running game and vary it up. It will alleviate pressure in all areas and will eventually breed more success in the young receivers when its not all been left up to them.

[Toppy Vann]

Yes and several of the past regimes in Eskville including when Chaps was his OC had made Ricky Ray look very ordinary.

These stats have been noted before but 2007 under Chapdelaine was one of Ricky Ray's most successful seasons, with a 101.6 QB rating and career-best 69.9% completion percentage. He was on pace for 32 TD passes and 5,200 yards before he was injured and forced to miss the final five games of the year.

As for the Lions' running game, it could be argued that the coaches' determination to run the ball in short-yardage situations this week cost the team momentum and points. Twice in their first three possessions, the Lions faced second and short yardage in Calgary territory and lost yardage running the ball up the middle, coming out with only three points. Overall they were 1-for-3 in short-yardage situations this week, all Jamal Robertson runs up the middle. Last week, the Lions faced second and short five times and passed every time, converting on four of them, including one for a touchdown. I suspect that if the Lions had passed the ball in those situations this week, they would have had more success and might have opened up a big early lead.

The real question is why can't the B.C. offensive line get any push up the middle in short-yardage situations. I don't have the answer. It's been that way for several years. Last year the Lions blew up the offensive line in an attempt to get more physical up front, but injuries ruined that plan before it could be evaluated. This year they blew it up again, with new starters at all five line positions. So far, it has resulted in improved pass protection but still no success at run blocking.

If you don't vary your running schemes of course the other team knows their plays and when they are running whereas with other teams they disguise this better.

You forgetting this about Chaps in Edmonton:?
"Trouble was, Edmonton finished last in the West Division standings with a dismal 5-12-1 record. Not only did the Eskimos players struggle grasping Chapdelaine's offence, but many were reportedly turned off by his often demanding demeanour."

"CRAZY HAND SIGNALS

Also, there will be no more wild-and-crazy Chapdelaine hand signals from the sidelines.

"Those hand signals? No, I don't think so," laughed Ray, who said someday he'll look back at that and laugh, but not just yet.

"In a way, that was so funny. The day before the game you'd see Jacques rehearsing his hand signals."

But in learning last year's offence, the hand signals were a problem, said Ray.

"That was one of the toughest things."

Ray said he also likes Worman's concept of the big play, which we haven't seen much of around here lately.

"I've missed having those plays." "

[The_Pauser]

Alot have been written about the inexperience of our young receiving corp. A good coach would design a package that will enable the receivers to have success instead of just dropping back and throwing bombs all night. Vary your approach.

Chap. Are you watching the Rider-Als game at all. You may want to take some notes on what the Riders do in the "red zone". Cates scores on a run from the 15 yard line on the first TD and has several runs to set up the second TD.

Jamal Robertson isn't a good running back. We just don't have the personnel to have a successful running game. Robertson's old and ineffective, Harris and Lee are Canadian and so their passports will automatically prevent them from gaining 4+ yards per carry in Wally's mind, and Brown is our kick returner.

What bugs me is why do we have Kamau Peterson and Paris Jackson on the roster if we're not going to use them? You're not going to kill a rookie's confidence by sitting him out for a few plays while we put a veteran in. At some point during Drop-a-palooza we should have put in a veteran to come up with a big catch or two that really could have turned the tide of the game.

[West Coast Blue Fan]

Jackson isn't playing because he can't run. Watching him at practice, he has a noticeable limp and you see he has a real problem making cuts that 100% players make with ease. It's a shame, but he still looks like he is weeks away.

Peterson however looks to be 100%. Not sure why he hasn't taken any reps....maybe they already have a designated pass dropper with "Dropson" Collins.

[joe kapp22]

Jackson isn't playing because he can't run. Watching him at practice, he has a noticeable limp and you see he has a real problem making cuts that 100% players make with ease. It's a shame, but he still looks like he is weeks away.

Peterson however looks to be 100%. Not sure why he hasn't taken any reps....maybe they already have a designated pass dropper with "Dropson" Collins.

Oh my yes, I've went say bad things happen when you try to get Collins the ball, however in the 2nd half they found something he very good at doing, Lulay hit him on a nice drag route for a long gain, that is what happens with young players, it takes failures at some things to find the success at other things.

[Lionheart]

Peterson however looks to be 100%. Not sure why he hasn't taken any reps....maybe they already have a designated pass dropper with "Dropson" Collins.

You owe me a cuppa coffee and a new keyboard.

[B.C.FAN]

Peterson however looks to be 100%. Not sure why he hasn't taken any reps....maybe they already have a designated pass dropper with "Dropson" Collins.

You owe me a cuppa coffee and a new keyboard.

I chucked when LU referred to Peterson in the Sunday Province as "perhaps the team's most reliable pass catcher." That may be the first time in his 12-year career that he's been described that way.

Lions tamed by inconsistency