Logan Offered 2 year Contract

[Ravi]

Yes, signing S. Logan, with his 7.3 yd rushing average (shades of Willie Fleming 8) ) is a definate priority. But after what D. Sproles (5'6", 180 lbs) did in the Chargers wildcard game last weekend with over 300 yds of offence, you might think other NFL clubs might be hunting for a diminutive scatback like Logan?

But the CFL has got to get rid of this Option year deal. S. Logan has played one season and now he's eligible to try the NFL? And Kelly Campbell, too? The CFL gets nothing for letting these players sign in the NFL while still under CFL contract. Initially the NFL loaned us $3M to let them do this. We paid the money back, so why is this Option year tryout still there?

...and I thought that W. Buono didn't sign players to one-year contracts?

Before the option year tryouts, it was the clubs option if the player was on the team, not the players. If the NFL gave us $50k to sign option players, I guess we could become their feeder league, if that's what we want. Otherwise the CFL should scrap this option clause and sign all players for two years minimum. The league mandates two-year contracts to help develop some consistency in their rosters...now they should enforce their own rules.

S. Logan, K. Campbell and a dozen other hopefuls will still be signing in the CFL if they scrapped the NFL option year tryouts.

I believe that the option year deal is still there because it is part of the current collective bargaining agreement with the players. Once that expires (after the 2009 season IIRC), then the league can scrap it, especially if there continues to be no new deal with the NFL.

Having said all of that, keep in mind that the CFL has lost fewer and fewer players over the years as most CFL players realize that unless they get a sizable signing bonus from an NFL team, they will likely be only training camp fodder in the NFL and will forfeit a valuable half-season of CFL salary if they do leave for the NFL. Many more CFL players get workouts than actually sign with an NFL team.

[Ravi]

The David Allen scenario I still can't figure out. It seems to be a contravention of both the NFL and CFL CBAs.

You and me both, Dale. I can't recall a situation like that before or since and I hope that we never see it again. That kind of deal does nothing good for our league.

[OV - 54:40]

The David Allen scenario I still can't figure out. It seems to be a contravention of both the NFL and CFL CBAs.

You and me both, Dale. I can't recall a situation like that before or since and I hope that we never see it again. That kind of deal does nothing good for our league.

Obviously the Stamps' brass at the time agreed to it - very stupid and shows what they thought of CFL integrity at the time.

[Hambone]

Ask quentin kieth as well. He would have done better sticking around and become a mainstay. Although he had to take his shot, but in doing so, will he become another bouncing ball "back".

Kenton Keith did OK. The absolute minimum he made in 2007 was $305000 and that's assuming he was only paid rookie minimum salary $285K for the regular plus the $20K bonus for the Colts' playoff game. Given he was a backup RB and still picked up 533 yards rushing he likely added some decent performance bonuses to whatever his signing bonus was. Add 'em all together plus decidedly better training camp compensation and Keith probably took home a cool quarter million bucks more last year than he would've had he toiled up here.

[OV - 54:40]

Ask quentin kieth as well. He would have done better sticking around and become a mainstay. Although he had to take his shot, but in doing so, will he become another bouncing ball "back".

Kenton Keith did OK. The absolute minimum he made in 2007 was $305000 and that's assuming he was only paid rookie minimum salary $285K for the regular plus the $20K bonus for the Colts' playoff game. Given he was a backup RB and still picked up 533 yards rushing he likely added some decent performance bonuses to whatever his signing bonus was. Add 'em all together plus decidedly better training camp compensation and Keith probably took home a cool quarter million bucks more last year than he would've had he toiled up here.

Yeah - and not only that - top notch CFL players who take an NFL shot are usually pretty comfortable that they will get handed their old CFL job back even if they get cut in NFL TC. Keith bounced back with a supposedly pretty lucrative CFL contract - even on a team that had good RB talent (Lumsden, Caulley, Smith); though he was unimpressive IMO in his return to the CFL, I'll bet he gets penciled in as the #1 back for the Ticats this coming season; and he could always flee for another NFL shot in his option year again.

[Ravi]

Ask quentin kieth as well. He would have done better sticking around and become a mainstay. Although he had to take his shot, but in doing so, will he become another bouncing ball "back".

Kenton Keith did OK. The absolute minimum he made in 2007 was $305000 and that's assuming he was only paid rookie minimum salary $285K for the regular plus the $20K bonus for the Colts' playoff game. Given he was a backup RB and still picked up 533 yards rushing he likely added some decent performance bonuses to whatever his signing bonus was. Add 'em all together plus decidedly better training camp compensation and Keith probably took home a cool quarter million bucks more last year than he would've had he toiled up here.

Yeah - and not only that - top notch CFL players who take an NFL shot are usually pretty comfortable that they will get handed their old CFL job back even if they get cut in NFL TC. Keith bounced back with a supposedly pretty lucrative CFL contract - even on a team that had good RB talent (Lumsden, Caulley, Smith); though he was unimpressive IMO in his return to the CFL, I'll bet he gets penciled in as the #1 back for the Ticats this coming season; and he could always flee for another NFL shot in his option year again.

I think that Keith's NFL days are over, OV. By the time, he is eligible for another NFL shot, he will be too old to be of interest to any NFL team.

[Wakesbetterthanyou]

Seems all signs point to Logan comming back to BC for next season. He says that he will be back unless he gets a deal that will make him a "big" part of the offense on an nfl team. I cant see anyone giving him that. I just dont see a back like him being able to be an every down back with the bohemoths that they have in the NFL. Esp after pittsburgh shut sproles down hard in the bolt vs steelers tilt. Here's hoping I'm right.

[Rammer]

Seems all signs point to Logan comming back to BC for next season. He says that he will be back unless he gets a deal that will make him a "big" part of the offense on an nfl team. I cant see anyone giving him that. I just dont see a back like him being able to be an every down back with the bohemoths that they have in the NFL. Esp after pittsburgh shut sproles down hard in the bolt vs steelers tilt. Here's hoping I'm right.

Having heard that and liking what I heard, if true it does indeed sound like Logan could end up being a feature player on the Lions for the coming season. However until the signature is on the dotted line and the NFL door closes, I will only give this a high probability of happening for the Lions.

[Hambone]

Seems all signs point to Logan comming back to BC for next season. He says that he will be back unless he gets a deal that will make him a "big" part of the offense on an nfl team. I cant see anyone giving him that. I just dont see a back like him being able to be an every down back with the bohemoths that they have in the NFL. Esp after pittsburgh shut sproles down hard in the bolt vs steelers tilt. Here's hoping I'm right.

Having heard that and liking what I heard, if true it does indeed sound like Logan could end up being a feature player on the Lions for the coming season. However until the signature is on the dotted line and the NFL door closes, I will only give this a high probability of happening for the Lions.

Realistically NFL teams would be from Missouri, the Show Me State, when it comes to Logan. They might be willing to take a chance for a training camp look-see, but wouldn't dig too deep into their wallets to pay for that look-see. Thus Logan would be in a Catch 22 situation having to balance a BC contract extension offer versus a low end NFL offer. Cam Wake received big money after earning 2 Defensive Player of the Year Awards in 2 seasons. Logan has looked terrific in 2/3 of a season while at the same time showings signs of a durability being a potential issue. Thus I think any NFL offer would be for rookie salary with a minimal signing bonus and no guarantees for playing time or role.

[Rammer]

Seems all signs point to Logan comming back to BC for next season. He says that he will be back unless he gets a deal that will make him a "big" part of the offense on an nfl team. I cant see anyone giving him that. I just dont see a back like him being able to be an every down back with the bohemoths that they have in the NFL. Esp after pittsburgh shut sproles down hard in the bolt vs steelers tilt. Here's hoping I'm right.

Having heard that and liking what I heard, if true it does indeed sound like Logan could end up being a feature player on the Lions for the coming season. However until the signature is on the dotted line and the NFL door closes, I will only give this a high probability of happening for the Lions.

Realistically NFL teams would be from Missouri, the Show Me State, when it comes to Logan. They might be willing to take a chance for a training camp look-see, but wouldn't dig too deep into their wallets to pay for that look-see. Thus Logan would be in a Catch 22 situation having to balance a BC contract extension offer versus a low end NFL offer. Cam Wake received big money after earning 2 Defensive Player of the Year Awards in 2 seasons. Logan has looked terrific in 2/3 of a season while at the same time showings signs of a durability being a potential issue. Thus I think any NFL offer would be for rookie salary with a minimal signing bonus and no guarantees for playing time or role.

As a return man in the NFL, Logan would provide a potential that some teams may be looking for. His size will limit any RB touches, other than to relieve for an injury, but giving the NFL a shot as a returner is my largest worry.

[Hambone]

As a return man in the NFL, Logan would provide a potential that some teams may be looking for. His size will limit any RB touches, other than to relieve for an injury, but giving the NFL a shot as a returner is my largest worry.

That's how I'd assess it too Phil. Any interest would be first and foremost as a kick returner, something he did a little bit of but not much with BC. In his senior year at South Dakota he had 14 KO returns for 392 yards including a 94 yd TD. He also chipped in 15 punt returns for 251 yards including a 66 yard TD. So he does have some return credentials on his resume. Just looking at the NCC conference all-star team in Logan's Sr season and it's littered with CFLers. Logan was 1st team RB; Rider Weston Dressler of North Dakota was 1st team WR; Eskimo Kenny Onatulu of Nebraska-Omaha was 1st team OLB and Esk teammate and Surrey native Calvin McCarty of Western Washington was 2nd team all-star RB. Alouette DB Donovan Alexander was 2nd team DB.