PROOF the Lions don't cheat

[Soundy]

So a track of crowd noise through the loudspeakers and crowd-noise picked up by a microphone and amplified over the loudspeakers is COMPLETELY different? Now wondering who needs to give their head a shake. They're BOTH wrong.

There is one key difference: playing canned noise is something that is entirely under someone's control.

Amplified crowd noise is not.

There are lots of people on the field and in the booth who have mics that necessarily feed into the PA system, including the officials. Someone turns his mic on too soon, or doesn't turn it off soon enough, it's going to pick up all the sound around it, it can't selectively ONLY pick up the person it's attached to.

If the guy calling the silly Subway promotion turns his mic on, and the fans right behind him are being noisy, that noise is going to be picked up and sent through the PA.

This is not controllable by ANYONE; it is not wrong, it is just the way things work... especially in an enclosed stadium with lots of hard reflective surfaces.

The problem I have is not that WHA WHA it's why we lost, it's the fact that it's WRONG.

The only thing WRONG here is YOU.

Wha Wha Wha.

[dokterew]

The only thing WRONG here is YOU.

That's your opinion, I wasn't sharing my opinion, just trying to follow the rules of the game. I guess that's not what your team is about in arguably many respects.

Good-bye, and again Good game.

[Soundy]

The only thing WRONG here is YOU.

That's your opinion, I wasn't sharing my opinion, just trying to follow the rules of the game.

Follow how? By bringing up the same tired argument that's been thrashed to death over the past two weeks? By saying you have no "reasonable explanation", then discounting out of hand the entirely reasonable explanation that's been given to you?

Go away, troll.

[Dan Russell]

The only thing WRONG here is YOU.

That's your opinion, I wasn't sharing my opinion, just trying to follow the rules of the game.

Follow how? By bringing up the same tired argument that's been thrashed to death over the past two weeks? By saying you have no "reasonable explanation", then discounting out of hand the entirely reasonable explanation that's been given to you?

Go away, troll.

Give him hell Soundy. Taught him a thing or 2.

[Honour Dewalt]

I can't take this anymore. You Rider fans and whoever else need to accept that it can get loud at BC Place by plain crowd noise. Why that is hard to believe, I don't know. Most other teams have smaller outdoor stadiums, so maybe thats why they have a hard time understanding. Even when we have 30,000+ people at the game cheering, there aren't many times the opposing team has difficulty. But if there are 50,000 people in a dome, accept it! Its gonna be loud!

[prairielion]

I can't take this anymore. You Rider fans and whoever else need to accept that it can get loud at BC Place by plain crowd noise. Why that is hard to believe, I don't know. Most other teams have smaller outdoor stadiums, so maybe thats why they have a hard time understanding. Even when we have 30,000+ people at the game cheering, there aren't many times the opposing team has difficulty. But if there are 50,000 people in a dome, accept it! Its gonna be loud!

Thank-you. Well said. I couldn't agree more.

[Honour Dewalt]

I also doubt that anyone with a mic at field level has instant feeds to the PA system. I can't say for sure but its more likely that their mic channel would have to be turned on as well, from a sound board. I don't think they would just leave it open the whole time, but I could be wrong. But that would mean anyone with a mic on the field would be able to say anything without warning throughout the whole stadium. Unlikely.

[Soundy]

I also doubt that anyone with a mic at field level has instant feeds to the PA system. I can't say for sure but its more likely that their mic channel would have to be turned on as well, from a sound board. I don't think they would just leave it open the whole time, but I could be wrong. But that would mean anyone with a mic on the field would be able to say anything without warning throughout the whole stadium. Unlikely.

Unlikely? Not really, especially with the refs' mics. In their case, it wouldn't be at all unusual that their channels are left on all the time - you'll notice that when they start talking, they press a button on their belt-pack, and release it again when they're done. Having someone else in the booth riding the channel would be at the least redundant.

With the other on-field crew, the engineer would likely turn the mic up just before the person is due to start, and then let that person control it via his own switch on the mic. If the person is facing away from the booth, for example, or is at the far side of the field, the engineer has no cues as to when to actually turn the mic on and off, other than a rough schedule of "this person goes on during the third commercial break in the second quarter", and so on.

I can't speak specifically for the BC Place crew, but having done live sound reinforcement for over 20 years, I've seen it done both ways in different circumstances and different venues.