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Hamilton jobbed again by officials

I thought the Ti-Cats maybe took the worst of the calls against the Lions, but tonight's game against Edmonton was unreal.

A ridiculous horse-collar penalty against Armour-- hey ref, if a guy is about to make a legit tackle and the other player dives down, it's not the tackler's fault if his arm goes around the ball carrier's neck instead of his pads. Rather than having to settle for a FG, the Eskimos get the TD.

Twice, French was clearly interfered with over the middle; no PI call.

And then another obvious PI on the deep ball on 3rd down in the final minute-- again, no call.

Unbelievably bad.
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Re: Hamilton jobbed again by officials

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Twice, French was clearly interfered with over the middle; no PI call.
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I swear that Flowers committed PI everytime the ball was thrown to his man.

The worst part is George Black will back the refs and nothing will change.
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NO the worst part is knowing that despite the "bad" reffing, Chris Bauman comes up with the catch where he was wide open and had the ball hit him right in the mitts at the end of the game, and we are all talking about Hamilton's comeback victory.

So despite "reffing problems", Hamilton still had the chance to win this one but let it slip away, or rather, fall incomplete ....
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The call on Armour didn't look like it should have been considered as a horse collar tackle or a penalty.

I thought those were where players grabbed the top of the shoulder pads from behind.

All Armour did was put his hand near French's neck. There was no twist or abuse for lack of a better word.

As far as the PI's: well those could have / should have been called, but when you look at the abuse players like Stegall and Simon take game after game, those were a lot less obvious than many non calls we've seen.

To some degree those were veteran DB moves to get away with that. Omar Evans for example.
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Blue In BC wrote:The call on Armour didn't look like it should have been considered as a horse collar tackle or a penalty.

I thought those were where players grabbed the top of the shoulder pads from behind.

All Armour did was put his hand near French's neck. There was no twist or abuse for lack of a better word.

As far as the PI's: well those could have / should have been called, but when you look at the abuse players like Stegall and Simon take game after game, those were a lot less obvious than many non calls we've seen.

To some degree those were veteran DB moves to get away with that. Omar Evans for example.
I have seen many questionable calls and non calls at the games at Commonwealth over the years :twisted: but I am probably just biased as I am not exactly a fan of the Esks!! :roll:
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LFITQ wrote:NO the worst part is knowing that despite the "bad" reffing, Chris Bauman comes up with the catch where he was wide open and had the ball hit him right in the mitts at the end of the game, and we are all talking about Hamilton's comeback victory.

So despite "reffing problems", Hamilton still had the chance to win this one but let it slip away, or rather, fall incomplete ....
Yup. I had to shake my head when I saw him drop that one.
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LFITQ wrote:NO the worst part is knowing that despite the "bad" reffing, Chris Bauman comes up with the catch where he was wide open and had the ball hit him right in the mitts at the end of the game, and we are all talking about Hamilton's comeback victory....
Chris Bauman, 2007 award winner for best impression of Kamau Peterson......just edging out Kamau Peterson for his drop earlier in the game.
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Hambone wrote:
LFITQ wrote:NO the worst part is knowing that despite the "bad" reffing, Chris Bauman comes up with the catch where he was wide open and had the ball hit him right in the mitts at the end of the game, and we are all talking about Hamilton's comeback victory....
Chris Bauman, 2007 award winner for best impression of Kamau Peterson......just edging out Kamau Peterson for his drop earlier in the game.
Except if Bauman makes that catch, then the Ti Cats probably win.
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LFITQ wrote:NO the worst part is knowing that despite the "bad" reffing, Chris Bauman comes up with the catch where he was wide open and had the ball hit him right in the mitts at the end of the game, and we are all talking about Hamilton's comeback victory.
Exactly, he should have caught that ball. Hamilton would probably have won.
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Blue In BC wrote:
Hambone wrote:
LFITQ wrote:NO the worst part is knowing that despite the "bad" reffing, Chris Bauman comes up with the catch where he was wide open and had the ball hit him right in the mitts at the end of the game, and we are all talking about Hamilton's comeback victory....
Chris Bauman, 2007 award winner for best impression of Kamau Peterson......just edging out Kamau Peterson for his drop earlier in the game.
Except if Bauman makes that catch, then the Ti Cats probably win.
Hard to say. Bauman's muff was infinitely more glaring given the juncture of the game. However Peterson's drop may have cost Edmonton points too. Seems to me Peterson was in for a big gain on his and would've had the Esks easily in FG range. Instead the drive fizzled a couple plays later and instead of a FG try they had to punt. Peterson makes the catch earlier in the game and maybe the Ti-Cats are needing a TD to win or tie instead of a FG. While missed opportunities at the end of the game are the ones that always get the attention, sometimes ones earlier in the game have just as much impact on the final outcome. McCallum missed 2 FGs on Friday. While the second miss would've put BC in the lead, the first had just as much impact on the complexion of the game.
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TheLionKing wrote:
LFITQ wrote:NO the worst part is knowing that despite the "bad" reffing, Chris Bauman comes up with the catch where he was wide open and had the ball hit him right in the mitts at the end of the game, and we are all talking about Hamilton's comeback victory.
Exactly, he should have caught that ball. Hamilton would probably have won.
I tend to find that sort of thinking very overused by football fans. We see a play like that and say it cost us a game. It was one play. The way Edmonton defenders were closing Bauman would've picked up a few more yards, but he wasn't going to score. I don't recall what yard line he was at but given the line of scrimmage was the 24 there still would've been some work to do to get into what would be considered good FG range. A 40 yard gain on that play still leaves them looking at a 50+ yard FG attempt. The drop didn't cost them a victory, but it did cost them a good opportunity to TRY to win the game. They'd still have to try AND make a FG to win.
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Hambone wrote:
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LFITQ wrote:NO the worst part is knowing that despite the "bad" reffing, Chris Bauman comes up with the catch where he was wide open and had the ball hit him right in the mitts at the end of the game, and we are all talking about Hamilton's comeback victory.
Exactly, he should have caught that ball. Hamilton would probably have won.
I tend to find that sort of thinking very overused by football fans. We see a play like that and say it cost us a game. It was one play. The way Edmonton defenders were closing Bauman would've picked up a few more yards, but he wasn't going to score. I don't recall what yard line he was at but given the line of scrimmage was the 24 there still would've been some work to do to get into what would be considered good FG range. A 40 yard gain on that play still leaves them looking at a 50+ yard FG attempt. The drop didn't cost them a victory, but it did cost them a good opportunity to TRY to win the game. They'd still have to try AND make a FG to win.
Which part of probably is confusing. Game on the line, needing a big play, needing another 1st down. Instead series ends with turnover on downs.

When it is the last offensive series of the game, it's win or lose.

I don't know what yardage line he would have caught that, but I didn't notice anybody closing all the quickly either.
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