There's the saying "On any given day in the CFL, any team can beat any other team." I haven't heard this articulated recently, but I'm struck by how true it still is--just witness today's Winnipeg win over Montreal in Montreal.
We haven't seen a dominant team this year. I suppose it could be argued that our Lions are close to that, but we definitely are not a lock in any game. I hope this changes as it did last year going into the playoffs, but we're sure not at that point yet this year.
The salary cap contributes to this absence of a dominant team, I guess. And I also guess that most fans would prefer it that way (especially in Winnipeg, Edmonton, and Hamilton at the moment ). Still, I kind of miss seeing a team that can be counted on to just roll over the opposition....
On any given day....
Moderator: Team Captains
-
- Legend
- Posts: 2779
- Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:24 am
- Location: Vancouver weekdays; Gulf Islands on weekends
Bombers just did the Argos a huge favour by beating the Als. Now let's see if they pay it forward by beating the Riders
Sports can be a peculiar thing. When partaking in fiction, like a book or movie, we adopt a "Willing Suspension of Disbelief" for enjoyment's sake. There's a similar force at work in sports: "Willing Suspension of Rationality". If you doubt this, listen to any conversation between rival team fans. You even see it among fans of the same team. Fans argue over who's the better QB or goalie, and selectively cite stats that support their views while ignoring those that don't.
- SammyGreene
- Team Captain
- Posts: 8084
- Joined: Sun Oct 06, 2002 11:52 am
Not so far. Argos come out looking not ready to play and their special teams were a nightmare between penalties and miscues. Other than the one drive, Jarious looking totally ineffective too.sj-roc wrote:Bombers just did the Argos a huge favour by beating the Als. Now let's see if they pay it forward by beating the Riders
Yep. Sask is putting the Argos to bed and tucking in their Sheets.SammyGreene wrote:Not so far. Argos come out looking not ready to play and their special teams were a nightmare between penalties and miscues. Other than the one drive, Jarious looking totally ineffective too.sj-roc wrote:Bombers just did the Argos a huge favour by beating the Als. Now let's see if they pay it forward by beating the Riders
Sports can be a peculiar thing. When partaking in fiction, like a book or movie, we adopt a "Willing Suspension of Disbelief" for enjoyment's sake. There's a similar force at work in sports: "Willing Suspension of Rationality". If you doubt this, listen to any conversation between rival team fans. You even see it among fans of the same team. Fans argue over who's the better QB or goalie, and selectively cite stats that support their views while ignoring those that don't.
-
- Legend
- Posts: 2779
- Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:24 am
- Location: Vancouver weekdays; Gulf Islands on weekends
On the other hand, some things never change! Like Jarious Jackson's 52% passing today. That's about equal to his passing percentage as a Lion, IIRC (maybe 53-54%). I well remember him coming in for the Lions on many occasions and really laying an egg. Although JJ has his fans here in BC, I was never one of them. I couldn't believe it when Toronto signed him this year, and wasn't at all surprised with his stinking the place up today in Toronto. If Ricky Ray is out for much longer, TO is dead in the water (which, actually, is fine with me ).
- Belize City Lion
- Hall of Famer
- Posts: 3592
- Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:39 pm
- Location: Belize City, Belize
The Riders are in the best position to catch the Lions now. Thanks to the unbalanced schedule, BC effectively has a 5 point lead on Calgary, making our magic number over the Stamps 2. But the Riders are only 4 points back and would own the tie break if they beat us in the regular season finale. As much as it feels like the Lions are comfortably in the driver's seat heading into the last 4 weeks, there is still a realistic chance that the final game will determine first place.
Yep, whoever wins that game owns the tiebreaker — a win would knot the season series at 2-2 and we'd take it on pt diff which we currently lead 65-55, while a loss would give them a 3-1 edge — although if we win it's unlikely that we would actually need to invoke it.Belize City Lion wrote:The Riders are in the best position to catch the Lions now. Thanks to the unbalanced schedule, BC effectively has a 5 point lead on Calgary, making our magic number over the Stamps 2. But the Riders are only 4 points back and would own the tie break if they beat us in the regular season finale. As much as it feels like the Lions are comfortably in the driver's seat heading into the last 4 weeks, there is still a realistic chance that the final game will determine first place.
All things being equal, Ssk has the best chance to catch us, although among Western teams, I'd say Cgy has the easiest remaining schedule. Their remaining opponents all have losing records, aside from us, whom they will host.
10-4 BC: @Ham, vsEdm, @Cgy, vsSsk (total opp record 27-29, 2 .500+ teams)
8-6 Cgy: @Wpg, vsHam, vsBC, @Edm (25-31, 1)
8-6 Ssk: @Edm, vsMtl, vsTor, @BC (31-25, 3)
6-8 Edm: vsSsk, @BC, @Mtl, vsCgy (34-22, 4)
Sports can be a peculiar thing. When partaking in fiction, like a book or movie, we adopt a "Willing Suspension of Disbelief" for enjoyment's sake. There's a similar force at work in sports: "Willing Suspension of Rationality". If you doubt this, listen to any conversation between rival team fans. You even see it among fans of the same team. Fans argue over who's the better QB or goalie, and selectively cite stats that support their views while ignoring those that don't.
- SammyGreene
- Team Captain
- Posts: 8084
- Joined: Sun Oct 06, 2002 11:52 am
Riders have won 5 of 6 and have looked very good in their last 3 games. They head to Commonwealth Saturday where they have struggled to win as of late, same with the Lions in Hamilton against the Jeckel & Hyde Ti-Cats.sj-roc wrote:Yep, whoever wins that game owns the tiebreaker — a win would knot the season series at 2-2 and we'd take it on pt diff which we currently lead 65-55, while a loss would give them a 3-1 edge — although if we win it's unlikely that we would actually need to invoke it.Belize City Lion wrote:The Riders are in the best position to catch the Lions now. Thanks to the unbalanced schedule, BC effectively has a 5 point lead on Calgary, making our magic number over the Stamps 2. But the Riders are only 4 points back and would own the tie break if they beat us in the regular season finale. As much as it feels like the Lions are comfortably in the driver's seat heading into the last 4 weeks, there is still a realistic chance that the final game will determine first place.
All things being equal, Ssk has the best chance to catch us, although among Western teams, I'd say Cgy has the easiest remaining schedule. Their remaining opponents all have losing records, aside from us, whom they will host.
10-4 BC: @Ham, vsEdm, @Cgy, vsSsk (total opp record 27-29, 2 .500+ teams)
8-6 Cgy: @Wpg, vsHam, vsBC, @Edm (25-31, 1)
8-6 Ssk: @Edm, vsMtl, vsTor, @BC (31-25, 3)
6-8 Edm: vsSsk, @BC, @Mtl, vsCgy (34-22, 4)
Think Riders will win both home games against Als and Argos which should make their Nov. 3 visit to BC Place worth 2nd place to them at the very least.
- Anglophone
- All Star
- Posts: 370
- Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:03 pm
I think Hamilton sort of surprised us last year to end our winning streak. It would be disappointing to lose again at Ivor Wynne.
-
- Hall of Famer
- Posts: 25103
- Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:13 pm
- Location: Vancouver
Jackson can be frustrating to watch. He can be brilliant one game and then overthrows / underthrows receivers the next gameSouth Pender wrote:On the other hand, some things never change! Like Jarious Jackson's 52% passing today. That's about equal to his passing percentage as a Lion, IIRC (maybe 53-54%). I well remember him coming in for the Lions on many occasions and really laying an egg. Although JJ has his fans here in BC, I was never one of them. I couldn't believe it when Toronto signed him this year, and wasn't at all surprised with his stinking the place up today in Toronto. If Ricky Ray is out for much longer, TO is dead in the water (which, actually, is fine with me ).
-
- Legend
- Posts: 2779
- Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:24 am
- Location: Vancouver weekdays; Gulf Islands on weekends
I don't recall ever seeing him brilliant.TheLionKing wrote:Jackson can be frustrating to watch. He can be brilliant one game and then overthrows / underthrows receivers the next gameSouth Pender wrote:On the other hand, some things never change! Like Jarious Jackson's 52% passing today. That's about equal to his passing percentage as a Lion, IIRC (maybe 53-54%). I well remember him coming in for the Lions on many occasions and really laying an egg. Although JJ has his fans here in BC, I was never one of them. I couldn't believe it when Toronto signed him this year, and wasn't at all surprised with his stinking the place up today in Toronto. If Ricky Ray is out for much longer, TO is dead in the water (which, actually, is fine with me ).
-
- Hall of Famer
- Posts: 25103
- Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:13 pm
- Location: Vancouver
I was been charitable. OK he was OK one game .............South Pender wrote:I don't recall ever seeing him brilliant.TheLionKing wrote:Jackson can be frustrating to watch. He can be brilliant one game and then overthrows / underthrows receivers the next gameSouth Pender wrote:On the other hand, some things never change! Like Jarious Jackson's 52% passing today. That's about equal to his passing percentage as a Lion, IIRC (maybe 53-54%). I well remember him coming in for the Lions on many occasions and really laying an egg. Although JJ has his fans here in BC, I was never one of them. I couldn't believe it when Toronto signed him this year, and wasn't at all surprised with his stinking the place up today in Toronto. If Ricky Ray is out for much longer, TO is dead in the water (which, actually, is fine with me ).
- DanoT
- Hall of Famer
- Posts: 4319
- Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:38 pm
- Location: Victoria, B.C. in summer, Sun Peaks Resort in winter
JJ was very good in games when he came in off the bench, the Lions were behind on the score board, and it was just throw deep and have the receiver run under it. Any game that requires short or medium passes with touch or accuracy and things tend to go poorly for Jackson.
Jarious Jackson - 2007 Final 9 Games as Lions starting QB:South Pender wrote:I don't recall ever seeing him brilliant.TheLionKing wrote:Jackson can be frustrating to watch. He can be brilliant one game and then overthrows / underthrows receivers the next gameSouth Pender wrote:On the other hand, some things never change! Like Jarious Jackson's 52% passing today. That's about equal to his passing percentage as a Lion, IIRC (maybe 53-54%). I well remember him coming in for the Lions on many occasions and really laying an egg. Although JJ has his fans here in BC, I was never one of them. I couldn't believe it when Toronto signed him this year, and wasn't at all surprised with his stinking the place up today in Toronto. If Ricky Ray is out for much longer, TO is dead in the water (which, actually, is fine with me ).
Tm - Att - C - % -- Yds - Av - Lg - In - Td
MTL...26 16 61.5% 222 13.9 44 1 1
TOR...29 13 44.8% 264 20.3 55 0 0
SSK....36 17 47.2% 256 15.1 51 1 3
CAL...28 23 82.1% 307 13.3 49 0 3
WPG..33 17 51.5% 241 14.2 41 1 1
EDM...28 15 53.6% 245 16.3 93 1 1
EDM...17 10 58.8% 143 14.3 54 0 2
HAM..17 13 76.5% 206 15.8 36 1 2
CAL...06 05 83.3% 099 19.8 48 0 1
Total over 9 games Jarious went:
125 of 213 (58.6%) for 1983 yds (15.8 yd. avg.) with 5 Int. and 14 Td.
Perhaps not brilliant but pretty darn good, and look at his longest completion in each game...that's pretty impressive and consistent. I believe Jarious went 9 and 2 as the starter in 2007 leading the Lions to a 14-3-1 record. He had another game in Wpg where he threw 5 TD's passes and was brilliant on that day. Not so much on Monday vs Sask. While he's perceived as a great backup QB coming off the bench, he plays better the more he plays. He might have been a good starter if some team had wanted to let him develop...but most teams need to win now to save the coach's derriere.