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Re: Game Day Thread, Eskimos @ Lions, July 20, 2012

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:45 pm
by TheLionKing
Guess Tillman can sleep tonight

Re: Game Day Thread, Eskimos @ Lions, July 20, 2012

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:46 pm
by Toppy Vann
not the best game and yes lulay made a bad toss. momentum shift . The West is very strong this year. it will be tight. This team is not done yet and i see a fight to the finish with all west teams very good.

EEdef gave up 98 pts to here last year... 56 this year.

Re: Game Day Thread, Eskimos @ Lions, July 20, 2012

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:46 pm
by swervynmerv
Lion Guy wrote:f*****g joke
Yuuuupppppp!

Re: Game Day Thread, Eskimos @ Lions, July 20, 2012

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:49 pm
by MikeAK
Totally bummed out about this game. So much for Wally's opinion that a closed roof gives us an advantage.

Re: Game Day Thread, Eskimos @ Lions, July 20, 2012

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:53 pm
by Toppy Vann
MikeAK wrote:Totally bummed out about this game. So much for Wally's opinion that a closed roof gives us an advantage.
I doubt the roof made a difference. It is just more noise for the opponent on O.

This ESKs D is better than last year and their off. did enough to win.. .Charles and Harris had great games for their teams... but failing to score on the drive leading to the ESK TD on the INT ended all hope.

Re: Game Day Thread, Eskimos @ Lions, July 20, 2012

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:57 pm
by BCfanInDIXIE
this is getting old already, why can't we get it in the endzone?! give me the Leos of 2011, not 2009 please.

Re: Game Day Thread, Eskimos @ Lions, July 20, 2012

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:04 pm
by TheLionKing
Guess Tillman can sleep tonight

Re: Game Day Thread, Eskimos @ Lions, July 20, 2012

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:05 pm
by TheLionKing
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Re: Game Day Thread, Eskimos @ Lions, July 20, 2012

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:15 pm
by WestCoastJoe
TheLionKing wrote:Guess Tillman can sleep tonight
Yes, if the Eskimos keep winning he will be safe enough in Edmonton. And it looks as if the team has an excellent defence, and a Fail Safe offence.

Re: Game Day Thread, Eskimos @ Lions, July 20, 2012

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:09 am
by notahomer
WestCoastJoe wrote:
TheLionKing wrote:Guess Tillman can sleep tonight
Yes, if the Eskimos keep winning he will be safe enough in Edmonton. And it looks as if the team has an excellent defence, and a Fail Safe offence.
Language can be so interesting, IMO. Where does a term like FAIL-SAFE get root? If everything fails we are still safe? We fair because we are safe?

Not arguing with your descrption, WCJ. It's the term I would (do) use to describe the Edm/Sask offences, IMO.

Re: Game Day Thread, Eskimos @ Lions, July 20, 2012

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:25 am
by WestCoastJoe
notahomer wrote:
WestCoastJoe wrote:
TheLionKing wrote:Guess Tillman can sleep tonight
Yes, if the Eskimos keep winning he will be safe enough in Edmonton. And it looks as if the team has an excellent defence, and a Fail Safe offence.
Language can be so interesting, IMO. Where does a term like FAIL-SAFE get root? If everything fails we are still safe? We fair because we are safe?

Not arguing with your descrption, WCJ. It's the term I would (do) use to describe the Edm/Sask offences, IMO.
I don't recall hearing it used to describe a football offence before this, Nota. It came to mind for me from the 1960s. A movie, a book, but more importantly, it described the nuclear stand off. You didn't want the red button pushed by mistake. That seems to describe the offence of the Riders, and, to a lesser extent, the Eskimos. Make no mistakes. No interceptions. No fumbles. Play it tight. Count on your defence. Win the turnover battle. Not the way to win the championship, IMO, but a good way to steal a few wins in the regular season.

Parcells liked that kind of offence with Jeff Hostetler at QB. They won a Super Bowl with it. No high risk plays. Double tight ends. Pass protection maximum. Running game. Big backs. Few passes. Et cetera. Seems like Fail Safe to me. To me it is an overly conservative approach, the opposite of a bombs away, high risk, go for it approach.

In the nuclear stand off the idea was backup systems. Double check. Minimize damage. Anticipate. Full attention to being careful. Fail Safe = Safety from failure = Avoid failure.

Re: Game Day Thread, Eskimos @ Lions, July 20, 2012

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:57 am
by DanoT
Ralph Sazio, defensive genius of the late 1950s and 1960's TiCats, took Fail-Safe O one step further. Not only did he put most of his best players on D, he kept the O under wraps so to speak. He didn't want the TiCats opponents to get too much film on his O so they would often score with the D and do just enough on O to win. Then come playoffs they would unveil some new plays on O that they had not used all season. The strategy worked well enough to produce lots of GC appearances.

Re: Game Day Thread, Eskimos @ Lions, July 20, 2012

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:32 am
by Lions4ever
B.C.FAN wrote:Rajon Henley has been made the scapegoat for the missed field goal return that decided last week's game. He'll sit in favour of fellow DE Brandon Peguese, who is considered a better special teamer.
Whoopsie.