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The team mentioned this afternoon some comments Banks made after the game blaming the offence and such. I've been searching for those comments without any luck. Has anyone else stumbled upon them?

btemp wrote:The team mentioned this afternoon some comments Banks made after the game blaming the offence and such. I've been searching for those comments without any luck. Has anyone else stumbled upon them?

136 pts allowed, 20 more then the next worst team, love KB..come on man...watched him, literally, point the safety to the route the Wr was going to run..during the play...and the Wr ran the route, the Safety did not react in time, and it went for a 20-30 yd gain.

Brother, that has nothing to do with the Offence.

Put it this way, last yr at this point in time, we had surrendered 97 pts, this yr..136 pts, 10 additional points per game or so.

My apologies to KB..that is *poop*.

btemp wrote:The team mentioned this afternoon some comments Banks made after the game blaming the offence and such. I've been searching for those comments without any luck. Has anyone else stumbled upon them?

Look at the game highlights at tsn.ca. Banks starts talking around the 2:58 mark. He called TEAM1040 today and said he didn't mean to blame the offence for the loss and that the locker room is not divided.

CTV played the brief interview again tonight on the 6:50pm sportsnews.

I am NOT reading anything into this. Heat of the moment stuff. He was interviewed on the field immediately after the final gun. He was frustrated. And all he said was, "you have to be able to get a point." And you know what? He's not wrong. C'mon, Travis coughed up a bigger fur ball on the final drive than a catfight between Rosie O'Donnell and Elizabeth Hasslebeck.

Media will try to stir the pot and make this out to be something other than it is. Korey is a team player and the heart and soul of the defense and was speaking out of frustration. Would I rather him not have commented at all? Yes, or even offered a mea culpa for the defense. But taken in the proper context, what he said isn't going to divide a locker room IMHO.

DH

Maybe he's blaming the offence for the numerous 2 and outs in the previous games which gassed the defence.

With four losses in a row, the campers will not be happy. Fingers get pointed. Lots of blame to go around.

Korey is a pro. Near Hall of Fame class. Obviously very frustrated.

Finger pointing. Not what you want with a team. Not necessarily such a big deal in view of the team's performance, and in view of his attempts to clarify it later.

WestCoastJoe wrote:With four losses in a row, the campers will not be happy. Fingers get pointed. Lots of blame to go around.

Korey is a pro. Near Hall of Fame class. Obviously very frustrated.

Finger pointing. Not what you want with a team. Not necessarily such a big deal in view of the team's performance, and in view of his attempts to clarify it later. IMO ...

Here is what bothers me WCJ, a Winner, will say that, then go out and make all of the plays they can in the next game, KB has not exactly had an impact on the Defence.

They should not complain about what a different unit is doing or not doing, they should improve the only thing they can...their own performance.

joe kapp22 wrote:

WestCoastJoe wrote:With four losses in a row, the campers will not be happy. Fingers get pointed. Lots of blame to go around.

Korey is a pro. Near Hall of Fame class. Obviously very frustrated.

Finger pointing. Not what you want with a team. Not necessarily such a big deal in view of the team's performance, and in view of his attempts to clarify it later. IMO ...

Here is what bothers me WCJ, a Winner, will say that, then go out and make all of the plays they can in the next game, KB has not exactly had an impact on the Defence.

They should not complain about what a different unit is doing or not doing, they should improve the only thing they can...their own performance.

True can't argue that. The cliche of pointing a finger means you got three pointing back. I get that. BUT, didn't you think KB had an impact on Fridays game? He scored a touchdown! and I saw some other tackles too. I think KB had an impact Friday night and hopefully his comments will have a positive impact too.

notahomer wrote:The cliche of pointing a finger means you got three pointing back. I get that. BUT, didn't you think KB had an impact on Fridays game? He scored a touchdown! and I saw some other tackles too. I think KB had an impact Friday night and hopefully his comments will have a positive impact too.

KB was involved in coverage and/or missed tackles on plays that led directly to three Hamilton touchdowns. No doubt, his defensive TD gave the Lions a huge lift. Making a couple more tackles would have helped the team even more.

WestCoastJoe wrote:With four losses in a row, the campers will not be happy. Fingers get pointed. Lots of blame to go around.

Korey is a pro. Near Hall of Fame class. Obviously very frustrated.

Finger pointing. Not what you want with a team. Not necessarily such a big deal in view of the team's performance, and in view of his attempts to clarify it later.

Earlier I had the opinion that it was not such a big deal, Korey pointing at the offence.

Not so sure anymore.

Wally does not take it upon himself to motivate the team. That leaves much of the development of culture, of winning, to the players. If you choose the right players and they develop a culture of winning, fine. If not, you have troubles. So a frustrated veteran speaks out, looking for answers, and points at the offence.

It shows the level of frustration of proud veterans, and it does show some division within the ranks of the team. Korey had said that not all team members thought Messam should have been banished. I take it he is not part of the "players' council" that wanted Messam removed from the team. A team with divisions in the ranks will likely see it in the uneven performance of the team. Korey quickly sought out the media to soften his remarks, but the speaking out is not a good sign. It is not a together team. IMO ...
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By the way, I see Kavis Reed was admonishing Messam for mouthing off and drawing a penalty at a key time in the game against the Stampeders. It will be amazing if Messam does not eventually use up his chances in Edmonton. He lacks impulse control, and he indulges himself without thought for the team.

I wonder if Edmonton have a Players Council ??

notahomer wrote:

joe kapp22 wrote:

WestCoastJoe wrote:With four losses in a row, the campers will not be happy. Fingers get pointed. Lots of blame to go around.

Korey is a pro. Near Hall of Fame class. Obviously very frustrated.

Finger pointing. Not what you want with a team. Not necessarily such a big deal in view of the team's performance, and in view of his attempts to clarify it later. IMO ...

Here is what bothers me WCJ, a Winner, will say that, then go out and make all of the plays they can in the next game, KB has not exactly had an impact on the Defence.

They should not complain about what a different unit is doing or not doing, they should improve the only thing they can...their own performance.

True can't argue that. The cliche of pointing a finger means you got three pointing back. I get that. BUT, didn't you think KB had an impact on Fridays game? He scored a touchdown! and I saw some other tackles too. I think KB had an impact Friday night and hopefully his comments will have a positive impact too.

If he is the leader in the secondary they how to explain the terrible tackling week after week after week?

Saw neither Lulay nor Jacque out there trying to get a opponent on the ground, that is on his unit not getting THEIR JOBS done, never mind the offence.

WestCoastJoe wrote:

WestCoastJoe wrote:With four losses in a row, the campers will not be happy. Fingers get pointed. Lots of blame to go around.

Korey is a pro. Near Hall of Fame class. Obviously very frustrated.

Finger pointing. Not what you want with a team. Not necessarily such a big deal in view of the team's performance, and in view of his attempts to clarify it later.

Earlier I had the opinion that it was not such a big deal, Korey pointing at the offence.

Not so sure anymore.

Wally does not take it upon himself to motivate the team. That leaves much of the development of culture, of winning, to the players. If you choose the right players and they develop a culture of winning, fine. If not, you have troubles. So a frustrated veteran speaks out, looking for answers, and points at the offence.

It shows the level of frustration of proud veterans, and it does show some division within the ranks of the team. Korey had said that not all team members thought Messam should have been banished. I take it he is not part of the "players' council" that wanted Messam removed from the team. A team with divisions in the ranks will likely see it in the uneven performance of the team. Korey quickly sought out the media to soften his remarks, but the speaking out is not a good sign. It is not a together team. IMO ...
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By the way, I see Kavis Reed was admonishing Messam for mouthing off and drawing a penalty at a key time in the game against the Stampeders. It will be amazing if Messam does not eventually use up his chances in Edmonton. He lacks impulse control, and he indulges himself without thought for the team.

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Coaches like managers can't motivate others. They create the conditions for motivation - that is their role. Right now the Lions aren't doing that.

Kavis Reed made it clear with the excess TD celebration the week before that he corrects the issue and let's it go. He laughed when he found out the player was worried. Messam made a boo boo and it will be corrected in similar fashion. Whether this guy is going to mess up worse later on is the unknown but it is clear that with the Reed coached team that players will be held accountable and at the same time will be supported. He has been tough in TC on dropped passes as his other O coaches have been BUT he has also told his coaches not to focus on Adarius Bowman's drop in that earlier game as he believes that this guy focusing on dropping the ball led to his many drops in the 'Peg last year. It is like baseball when a player is thinking strike out at bat and that never gets the guy out of the slump.

Banks is right to make statements that all is well. The proof in that statement will only be known in the next game.

Right now these players are all making mistakes on both D and O. It looks like the players are failing to believe in their coaches.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/CFL/ ... 68106.html

Lions DB didn't mean to 'point fingers'

By HOSEA CHEUNG, QMI Agency

Korey Banks doing damage control to start off the week.

The B.C. Lions defensive back called out his team's offence after Friday's loss to the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, questioning their inability to get into field goal range late in the game when trailing by just two points.

He called a local radio station the next day to clear the air, but the outspoken veteran again fielded questions about his comments Monday where he stressed it was a mistake.

"I just hate that it came out that way. I've never been really affiliated with something like that, saying I'm pointing fingers," Banks said. "I'm an emotional player. I'm smart enough to know don't say that kind of thing, but it caught me in the moment. 95 per cent of the team didn't even hear the comment. I just don't want to blow it out of proportion. We're already losing."

When you're losing games, stuff happens. Korey is a team guy. He got caught at just the right moment by the media and he didn't think twice before talking.

Banks, who addressed his teammates in a meeting Sunday, said he meant to put the heat on the entire team rather than just the offence. The 0-4 Lions are still seeking their first win of the season. As a leader on the team, the Florida native felt he needed to speak out in these frustrating times.

"In my defence, if you look at it realistically, if the season is a bust, who's the first people to get looked at? It's not going to be the rookies. It's not going to be the young guys. It's going to be the veterans. And what category do I fall in? A veteran," he said. "So as a veteran, sometimes I might say things you may not like, but at the end of the day I tell people that. I didn't know why they blew it up. I was kind of wrong but I'm not dodging the questions. The timing probably wasn't right."

Korey has a good relationship with his teammates. They can forgive him. He is not a whiner, nor is he a malcontent, nor is he a selfish player.
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The Lions have bigger issues than this to solve. Porous defence. Inconsistent offence. Poor tackling. Slow starts.

Nice to see the DBs doing some form tackling at practice today. It might help, although for pros, IMO tackling is mostly an attitude. They know how to tackle. It's just a question of whether they are willing to pay the price in the heat of the moment. Tackling hurts the tackler as much as the ball carrier at times.

Sloppy tackling has been there since game 1. Shouldn't that be addressed alot sooner than now.