Lions at Redblacks Aug. 24, 2024

[David]

Could have awarded a TD on the play Jaelon Acklin was injured on as he had the ball until the ground jarred it loose. I thought they ruled a similar play earlier a catch. Nice to see the Redblacks doing well for their fans.

What?? He never survived contact. If that's ruled a TD, then Hatcher stretching out in the end zone vs the Bombers last week would be a touchdown catch too.


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[David]

Not going to happen at this point, but the Lions need wayyyyy better at both OC & DC rather than predictable dullards. Next season should see those 2 plus Campbell punted out of town, and get some fresh, sharp football coaches and thinking in place.

I don't think Campbell gets the boot until the off-season. There's a chance they could do it for a "Hail Mary" lift for a playoff spot (and lightning-in-a-bottle for Grey Cup run). But I could only see that happening if they lose to Ottawa this week, and then to Montreal and Toronto heading into the bye. Could replace him with Benevides as an interim replacement, as he has head coaching experience and is more of an "inspirational leader" than Campbell.

The question is, do you see any team that would go after any of our staff if they cleaned house? Me neither. At one time, Maksymic was seen as the up and coming 'golden boy' but his failure to adjust and overcome our deficiencies has been alarming. Same for RP. During the "Donut Boys" run, he was the lauded but his inability to scheme our guys to overcome the warts has been shockingly bad. He's not missing tackles and taking bad penalties but still...


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[don corleone]

What?? He never survived contact. If that's ruled a TD, then Hatcher stretching out in the end zone vs the Bombers last week would be a touchdown catch too.
DH

That's the way they've been calling it lately. I think clear possession beyond the goal line should be considered a score without the having to survive contact whether it be another player or the turf.

At one time it was a rule that the ground could not cause a fumble. I guess that lasted until it no longer suited their needs.

To make a catch and then have a db lay a bone jarring lick trying to knock the ball free hoping for a call from the Command Center and getting is a loose interpretation of the rules and degrades the game imo. Two hands on the ball is possession imo. Running across the line can be without contact.

Just saying Acklin made a heck of a play and considering what happened next it would have been nice to give him the catch. Fortunately I hear today he was released from hospital and appears to be okay. The pounding the players take is unbelievable

[don corleone]

What?? He never survived contact. If that's ruled a TD, then Hatcher stretching out in the end zone vs the Bombers last week would be a touchdown catch too.
DH

The Calgary td by Bell today who stretched out to break the goal line did not survive contact with the ground. Not sure how else they could have called it except for a fumble. Just saying it seems to sometimes suit the situation.

[Toppy Vann]

What?? He never survived contact. If that's ruled a TD, then Hatcher stretching out in the end zone vs the Bombers last week would be a touchdown catch too.
DH

The Calgary td by Bell today who stretched out to break the goal line did not survive contact with the ground. Not sure how else they could have called it except for a fumble. Just saying it seems to sometimes suit the situation.

Players let the ball go all the time once in the end zone - pass or run. I personally think that sometimes it's too soon and I'd prefer them not to do that in case it's overturned but the modern player is quick to celebrate.

In this case, the player didn't appear to survive contact with the ground but as he ran it in, it was over the moment he crossed the line with the ball in possession.

SECTION 2 — DEFINITIONS
Article 1 — Touchdown
A touchdown is scored when the ball is in possession of a player in the opponent's Goal Area, or when the ball in the possession of a player crosses or touches the plane of the opponent's Goal Line. Should the ball subsequently be fumbled, or the player in possession forced back into the Field of Play, the touchdown shall score.

[don corleone]

Players let the ball go all the time once in the end zone - pass or run. I personally think that sometimes it's too soon and I'd prefer them not to do that in case it's overturned but the modern player is quick to celebrate.

In this case, the player didn't appear to survive contact with the ground but as he ran it in, it was over the moment he crossed the line with the ball in possession.

SECTION 2 — DEFINITIONS
Article 1 — Touchdown
A touchdown is scored when the ball is in possession of a player in the opponent's Goal Area, or when the ball in the possession of a player crosses or touches the plane of the opponent's Goal Line. Should the ball subsequently be fumbled, or the player in possession forced back into the Field of Play, the touchdown shall score.

Appreciate the comment and can't argue with the facts. Just saying at times a receiver with a similar situation does not get the call.

One thing for sure, it's not easy to be a ref.

[Hambone]

What?? He never survived contact. If that's ruled a TD, then Hatcher stretching out in the end zone vs the Bombers last week would be a touchdown catch too.
DH

The Calgary td by Bell today who stretched out to break the goal line did not survive contact with the ground. Not sure how else they could have called it except for a fumble. Just saying it seems to sometimes suit the situation.

Surviving contact with the ground really only applies to receiving the ball. Hill had already secured the catch around the 3 yard line. After that he was merely a ball carrier. From there all he needed to prove was that he had the ball securely in his possession as it broke the plane of the goal line.