Re: New Head Coach -- Jeff Garcia? John Hufnagel? No.
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:54 am
Can we just fast forward to the introductory press conference with Paul LaPolice and save ourselves some time and bandwidth?
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Toppy Vann wrote:The thought that Hufnagel exits as HC to keep Dave D is incredibly naive thinking as no one is about to stop doing what they like to do to let someone else take it on.
If he decides to step down as HC it will be for his own reasons.
Wally and Benny spun the removal of Stubler to keep Washington and it's spin.
There is a huge part of me that suggests Dave D is not that driven to be a HC that he'd even want to work for Wally. But he seems to have a good working rapport with Hufnagel and they both say the same things about players in the news. But unlike Junior Wally, no one i have heard says Dave is Junior John Hufnagel.
He is not all about the money and he seems to have managed his pro career and money pretty well. I am sure he is well paid by OC standards.
Ambition he might have but he is not one to let himself be consumed by it.
Loyalty and lifestyle, Dickenson said, rank above just about any scenario.
“I’ve kind of given my wife a little more say on where we get to live,” Dickenson said. “I want to be a head coach. If it falls to me at one point in my career, great. But I’m not as motivated to be at the top of the ladder.”
If it means he must continue to work the final two seasons of his contract under Calgary coach John Hufnagel, he’ll wait.
“My decisions are based more on family life and things that aren’t involving football. I love where I’m at; why do I need to change all that?”
EXACTLY, Both Joe and RB are bang on with their comments...practise is about preparation and FOCUS, not hitting and gassing players...that stuff is JUVENILLE, this is supposed to be PROFESSIONAL. That was biggest concern for me with MB, he didn't seem to understand these things...too often treating the players like children, not MEN. Men are held are taught, trained and then held accountable...children show up late, pout, fight and are undisciplined...sound like this year's Lions? It reflects on the coaching. This another reason why I would like to see Jeff Garcia hired, he has played under the best systems in football, where intelligence, repetition at game speed, and accountability are what counts!rb wrote:Definitely, you can't train really hard and play your best at the same time. Especially the older guys. That's why off-season conditioning is so important.
During the season, the emphasis should be on skills, strategy and execution. Players need to recover between games, not beat each other to a pulp or be run ragged during midweek practices.
True that.It would appear that the history of two franchises changed on the day in late 2007 when the Lions cut the quarterback that Calgary was only too happy to take back.
One more thing ... Can words be taken at face value? I recall when Dave D was still playing, he was asked about coaching when he retired as a QB. He answered that he had no interest in coaching. (It would be on this website back in the day.)“I’ve kind of given my wife a little more say on where we get to live,” Dickenson said. “I want to be a head coach. If it falls to me at one point in my career, great. But I’m not as motivated to be at the top of the ladder.”
If it means he must continue to work the final two seasons of his contract under Calgary coach John Hufnagel, he’ll wait.
“My decisions are based more on family life and things that aren’t involving football. I love where I’m at; why do I need to change all that?”
Temptation may still be in the future of the most-sought coach in the CFL, who has been linked to at least three other job openings in recent years. Would a blank cheque signed by Lions owner David Braley change his outlook?
“I’m not saying there’s not something that wouldn’t entice you,” said Dickenson. “But I’m saying me and Huf have an agreement and we’re staying with it.”
Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Cole ... z3KNytguapCam Cole: Grey Cup takes precedence over all things CFL
BY CAM COLE, POSTMEDIA NEWS COLUMNIST NOVEMBER 27, 2014
VANCOUVER - It is Grey Cup week, and Wally Buono isn’t talking.
He isn’t talking on the record, off the record, for background, or issuing non-denial denials about potential candidates for the B.C. Lions’ head coaching job.
“Call me Monday or Tuesday,” he said. “The CFL has rules against anything that isn’t about the Grey Cup this week.”
He says he once got fined by the league when a football writer penned a column during Grey Cup week speculating what the Lions GM might possibly be thinking, without quoting Buono or talking to him. Even that was verboten.
So we’re not going to speculate, either, because heaven knows Wally can’t afford another fine.
However, since the job is open and at least two fellows who would be on anyone’s list of potential youngish head coaching candidates are on the staffs of the Grey Cup teams --- Hamilton defensive co-ordinator Orlondo Steinauer and Calgary offensive co-ordinator Dave Dickenson --- it’s almost like talking about the Grey Cup, right, Wally?
“Can’t do it,” he said, en route to get credentialed for the CFL Player Awards.
Well, that was substantially Steinauer’s response at the Ticats’ breakfast with the media Thursday morning, and Dickenson, the former B.C. quarterback who would have had the Lions’ job yesterday if he hadn’t been anointed John Hufnagel’s head coach of tomorrow with the Stampeders, spent more time at addressing it during Calgary’s luncheon interview session in the afternoon, but the message was substantially the same.
“Well, thanks for starting with the easy question, appreciate that,” Dickenson said. “My answer today is, not interested in talking about it. I’m going to be back in Calgary next year. It’s going to be the same answer tomorrow, same answer next week.”
“I think last year, when Dave signed a long-term contract with the Calgary Stampeders, it was pretty self-explanatory,” said Hufnagel, who might --- might –-- kick himself upstairs if the Stamps were to win Sunday.
Or he might not. Either way, Dickenson said, he’s in no hurry.
“I think Huf can do more than two (more years). I really am OK with that,” he said. “I think there’s a lot of things about being co-ordinator that are more fun than the head coaching job. The salary is the one thing that’s maybe not as fun.”
And still, breaking the bank to try to get him wouldn’t be the whole answer. He has listened to offers before, including for the coaching job Kent Austin has now, though probably not the other two hats Austin wears in Hamilton.
Dickenson, it should be said, is one of the CFL’s most engaging personalities, and he clearly is a superb offensive play-caller.
Maybe that’s why there’s such a groundswell of opinion that the Lions ought to make him an offer he can’t refuse.
Only thing is, he sounds as though he would refuse it, anyway.
“You guys know me,” he said. “My decisions are based more on family life. I love where I’m at.”
Loves being near Montana, where he grew up and won a national championship in college.
The decision not to listen to what the Lions might offer has nothing to do, he said, with any hard feelings from how he and the club parted ways in 2007, a year after winning the Grey Cup.
“Oh, no, no, I loved it here, and still have good feelings with Wally,” Dickenson said. “But I’m a very loyal person and I think Huf alluded to this: I gave him my word, and when I sign a contract, I’m honoring that. I think it’s very unfair when you give someone your word to just decide the grass is greener on the other side and move.”
All that said, if there’s one reason any established co-ordinator might balk at the B.C. job, it’s that there is a world of uncertainty about whether there’ll be a legitimate quarterback here in 2014. One that can last beyond the first hard hit, anyway. Travis Lulay might not.
Still, someone’s going to accept the job. Buono has had expressions of interest “globally,” he admitted, a while back.
“The reality is, there’s 41 jobs as head coach of a professional football team in the world,” said Ticats special teams coach Jeff Reinebold, who’s been a head coach in Winnipeg and defensive co-ordinator in B.C. among his myriad of postings.
“So when one of those comes available, everybody in this business that aspires to that dream, their ears perk up.
“You get to a point where you wonder if it’s ever going to happen and then a job comes open, and … you know, I respect so much guys like (Edmonton’s) Chris Jones and Dave Dickenson who’ve maintained they were not going to take a job unless it was a purrfect fit.
“I didn’t have that kind of (good) sense. I was probably too emotional about it when I took the job in Winnipeg. I wanted to be a head coach. I believed at that time that I could outwork any problem.”
What he learned, he said, he would happily pass on to whoever might be thinking about the B.C. job, or any job.
“Looking back on it now, and I’ve talked to Orlondo about this because I’m sure he’s going to get the opportunity very soon: No. 1, you better have a quarterback or access to one, because you can’t win in this league without one,” Reinebold said. “And two, go someplace where there’s a structure in place to get you players, where you can work hand-in-hand with the GM, or however they structure it.
“That didn’t happen in my case. So it was destined to fail. I loved my time in Winnipeg, but the reality of it is, you don’t get very many second chances in this business.”
So Dickenson is smart to stay put. That doesn’t solve Wally Buono’s problem, but in both the short and long term, it’s darned good for the Stampeders.
Meanwhile, in Grey Cup news …
Reinebold was a smart acquisition by the TiCats. Helluva special teams coach. He can rally the troops.“The reality is, there’s 41 jobs as head coach of a professional football team in the world,” said Ticats special teams coach Jeff Reinebold, who’s been a head coach in Winnipeg and defensive co-ordinator in B.C. among his myriad of postings.
“So when one of those comes available, everybody in this business that aspires to that dream, their ears perk up.
“You get to a point where you wonder if it’s ever going to happen and then a job comes open, and … you know, I respect so much guys like (Edmonton’s) Chris Jones and Dave Dickenson who’ve maintained they were not going to take a job unless it was a purrfect fit.
“I didn’t have that kind of (good) sense. I was probably too emotional about it when I took the job in Winnipeg. I wanted to be a head coach. I believed at that time that I could outwork any problem.”
What he learned, he said, he would happily pass on to whoever might be thinking about the B.C. job, or any job.
“Looking back on it now, and I’ve talked to Orlondo about this because I’m sure he’s going to get the opportunity very soon: No. 1, you better have a quarterback or access to one, because you can’t win in this league without one,” Reinebold said. “And two, go someplace where there’s a structure in place to get you players, where you can work hand-in-hand with the GM, or however they structure it.
“That didn’t happen in my case. So it was destined to fail. I loved my time in Winnipeg, but the reality of it is, you don’t get very many second chances in this business.”
So Dickenson is smart to stay put. That doesn’t solve Wally Buono’s problem, but in both the short and long term, it’s darned good for the Stampeders.
Jeff Garcia, take note.“I didn’t have that kind of (good) sense. I was probably too emotional about it when I took the job in Winnipeg. I wanted to be a head coach. I believed at that time that I could outwork any problem.”
I am happy to see Reinebold's Winnipeg tenure being applied to a potential new HC for the Lions, as his HC time for the Bombers was a little too loose even for that time period. Now had it worked out for him, it may have set a snowball effect for the CFL to be exactly what the XFL wanted to have, pure entertainment both on the field and off of it.WestCoastJoe wrote:Reinebold was a smart acquisition by the TiCats. Helluva special teams coach. He can rally the troops.“The reality is, there’s 41 jobs as head coach of a professional football team in the world,” said Ticats special teams coach Jeff Reinebold, who’s been a head coach in Winnipeg and defensive co-ordinator in B.C. among his myriad of postings.
“So when one of those comes available, everybody in this business that aspires to that dream, their ears perk up.
“You get to a point where you wonder if it’s ever going to happen and then a job comes open, and … you know, I respect so much guys like (Edmonton’s) Chris Jones and Dave Dickenson who’ve maintained they were not going to take a job unless it was a purrfect fit.
“I didn’t have that kind of (good) sense. I was probably too emotional about it when I took the job in Winnipeg. I wanted to be a head coach. I believed at that time that I could outwork any problem.”
What he learned, he said, he would happily pass on to whoever might be thinking about the B.C. job, or any job.
“Looking back on it now, and I’ve talked to Orlondo about this because I’m sure he’s going to get the opportunity very soon: No. 1, you better have a quarterback or access to one, because you can’t win in this league without one,” Reinebold said. “And two, go someplace where there’s a structure in place to get you players, where you can work hand-in-hand with the GM, or however they structure it.
“That didn’t happen in my case. So it was destined to fail. I loved my time in Winnipeg, but the reality of it is, you don’t get very many second chances in this business.”
So Dickenson is smart to stay put. That doesn’t solve Wally Buono’s problem, but in both the short and long term, it’s darned good for the Stampeders.
"you better have a quarterback ... because you can't win in this league without one" ... As it happens, both Calgary and Hamilton have two quarterbacks each. Developed in house. In Collaros' case, with some help from Scott Milanovich.
Yes, one could say Dickenson would be smart to stay put in Calgary.
Wally's problem? We will see how that goes.
It seems clear Jeff Reinebold knows his first and last CFL HC opportunity came and went in Winnipeg.Rammer wrote:I am happy to see Reinebold's Winnipeg tenure being applied to a potential new HC for the Lions, as his HC time for the Bombers was a little too loose even for that time period. Now had it worked out for him, it may have set a snowball effect for the CFL to be exactly what the XFL wanted to have, pure entertainment both on the field and off of it.WestCoastJoe wrote: Reinebold was a smart acquisition by the TiCats. Helluva special teams coach. He can rally the troops.
"you better have a quarterback ... because you can't win in this league without one" ... As it happens, both Calgary and Hamilton have two quarterbacks each. Developed in house. In Collaros' case, with some help from Scott Milanovich.
Yes, one could say Dickenson would be smart to stay put in Calgary.
Wally's problem? We will see how that goes.
IMO, having a Reinebold type coach on the staff is great if you can handle him, he is sure to give the HC support while putting up his own opinion. Plus he lives football with a wide background to draw from. Just don't let him be HC of the Lions please. Plus I don't think that he is a Wally type coach, which has it's good and bad factors in this search for a new coaching staff.
Yes, Wally is looking at "personality". But what does 'personality' mean to Wally. Does that mean he wants a 'personality' that will defer to Wally in terms of personell decisions, look up to Wally as a 'living legend', and view Wally as the 'all knowing 'mentor'.B.C.FAN wrote:Wally was on Team 1040 with Sekeres and Price at 11 a.m. Friday and said the biggest factor for him in searching for a head coach is personality. I forget the term he used but he suggested that they're worked hard as an organization to build team character, and they got away from that this year. I missed the end of the interview but it may be available as a podcast later.
Any potential coach coming in better use the word 'execute' for him.TheLionKing wrote:I am shocked that personality rank so high on Buono's hiring criteria. One would think it would be experience and ability to adjust on the go
IMO, I wouldn't get too wound up by Wally's use of the word "personality". The coaching fraternity in the CFL is just that. The CFL is small enough that the coaches see a lot of each other and get to know each other. They get to know who they like or don't and who they can get along with and work with.Rammer wrote:Any potential coach coming in better use the word 'execute' for him.TheLionKing wrote:I am shocked that personality rank so high on Buono's hiring criteria. One would think it would be experience and ability to adjust on the go