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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:04 pm
by Toppy Vann
I haven't been to more than a half dozen Canucks games since they moved to GM Place but I like the atmosphere at Lions games better than at GM Place including the 7th game (the other night and I was at the game).
The guy I went with comes to Lions games with me most of the time, and he said the same thing to me.
It still has a corporate feel despite many younger people at the Canuck games.
I'm glad for the Canucks and rooting for them to win this series too.
Hockey is different than football in that there are more games, more money and marketing resulting from that.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:50 pm
by nelson95
Those dancing fans will look pretty silly after the Ducks sweep.
Councillors wearing jersey's ? PLEASE!!
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:16 pm
by hunsperger
Councillors wearing jersey's ? PLEASE!!
Nelson95...What do they say about politicians, men are from Mars, women are from Venus and politicians are from Uranus.
Never met a politican who doesn't pander. Great point.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:58 pm
by CB123
I cant agree more. I dont watch the Canucks in the regular season, or the playoffs. Mostly because I dont wanna be a bandwagon jumper like 90% of the other hockey "fans" in Vancouver.
Everyone acts so offended when I tell them Im not watching the Canucks game, cuz Im going to the Giants, or for any other reason, and im just like w.e. I dont watch them during the season, so why am I gonna start now...? Then they respond with "so what! its the playoffs!", so that makes a difference why... If anything I would be happy if they lost, then maybe all the "fans" will jump on the Giants bandwagon, and then see some real hockey. Who knows, they might actually end up liking it, and realizing its good quality hockey.

but, until then GO GIANTS!

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:53 am
by hunsperger
CB123...Excellent observations. Your a hockey fan first and foremost. This city needs more fans like you. All the best.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:59 am
by CB123
CB123...Excellent observations. Your a hockey fan first and foremost
Thanks hunsperger. BUT Im actually a Football fan first, and hockey will always be second to that.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:05 pm
by Sharpo
hunsperger wrote: I guarantee you, if the BC Lions were an NFL team playing out of BC Place they would sell out every game, even if they were 0-16. Do you know why? Because the NFL is cool and trendy and cities like Vancouver and Toronto are only interested if it is cool, trendy and corporate.
Believe me, I miss Casey Printers for this very reason. He had a lot of NFL fans interested. I go on record saying that If Ottawa comes back, and DD DOES leave, we go Printers/Pierce half and half.
Of course I'm insane.
edited for sanity.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:17 pm
by Canuck_4_Life
Toppy Vann wrote:I haven't been to more than a half dozen Canucks games since they moved to GM Place but I like the atmosphere at Lions games better than at GM Place including the 7th game (the other night and I was at the game).
The guy I went with comes to Lions games with me most of the time, and he said the same thing to me.
It still has a corporate feel despite many younger people at the Canuck games.
I'm glad for the Canucks and rooting for them to win this series too.
Hockey is different than football in that there are more games, more money and marketing resulting from that.
If you sit lower bowl, it's definitely a corporate feeling. Go sit in the nosebleeds, you'll see some true fans there.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:00 pm
by Lionheart
So Cal Lion wrote:
No city has ever had both the Grey Cup and the Stanley Cup Champions in the same season. That possibility stills remains....
Go Canucks ! ! !

We were a goal post away from that feat in '94

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:24 pm
by sj-roc
Lionheart wrote:So Cal Lion wrote:
No city has ever had both the Grey Cup and the Stanley Cup Champions in the same season. That possibility stills remains....
Go Canucks ! ! !

We were a goal post away from that feat in '94

Lafayette was tantalizingly close, indeed, but all else being equal, that would have only made it a 3-3 tie -- no telling how it would have unfolded from there. I remember Bure trickled one through the crease around that point of the game, too.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:41 pm
by Lionheart
If he would have scored we would have won the game, no doubt about it.
If you recall, the nhl gave the strangers and extra day to regroup after game six. The extra day was enough to slow up our momentum and let them regroup. Contrary to wishfull memories, that game seven was our poorest effort of the three last games. If that goal goes in in the third though, it all comes back to our favour and the strangers were dust.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:56 pm
by Robbie
sj-roc wrote:Lafayette was tantalizingly close, indeed, but all else being equal, that would have only made it a 3-3 tie -- no telling how it would have unfolded from there.
Thanks for setting the fact straight, sj-roc. You took the words right out of my mouth. The same goes for the Dunigan interception in the late stages of the 1988 Grey Cup. A field goal would have only tied the game at 22 and there was no telling how it would have unfolded from there.
Lionheart wrote:If you recall, the nhl gave the strangers and extra day to regroup after game six. The extra day was enough to slow up our momentum and let them regroup. Contrary to wishfull memories, that game seven was our poorest effort of the three last games. If that goal goes in in the third though, it all comes back to our favour and the strangers were dust.
It was decided that the final round of the 1994 Stanley Cup playoffs would only have games played on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays. The final game 7 was played on Tuesday, June 14, 1994.
Well, for the
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:36 pm
by Toppy Vann
I think these last few posts have nailed the reality of hockey for Canadians.
Hockey Night in Canada is one of the programs I recall as a kid that was on in our house on Saturday nights and this of course was before the CFL made the TV airwaves to the same extent.
I do think that Geroy Simon's comments about the "micro-analyzation" of hockey in these parts is over the top. I know that during the lock out where not a game was played that season, the local sports talkies had not trouble filling the airwaves with possible line combinations once play resumed the next year. I figured that they wouldn't have run out of things to say about the NHL and them 'nucks for at least 3 years if the strike/lockout hadn't ended!
What I find is that fans calling into sports shows have heard enough other calls and have learned to come on sounding brilliant as they speculate that Naslund with the Sedins would do, etc. etc. Football is a bit more complex.
Now the Canucks and the NHL have brought in the marketing gurus to help them get things moving and build the fan base whereas the CFL is still run by the football types and they aren't marketers. That is a bit of a problem. Lack of money and lack of ideas to attract more fans.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:46 pm
by sj-roc
Lionheart wrote:If he would have scored we would have won the game, no doubt about it.
WADR, there's no way anybody can conclusively prove beyond a reasonable doubt who would have won that game (
i.e., I'm not arguing the Rangers would have still won). One can propose that this team or that would have had the momentum, or that this team or that would have stood a better chance, but it's ultimately just a debate of probabilities (which in and of itself need not be boring or uninteresting) because the answer can never be known. You obviously feel the Canucks had the momentum, and I'm not disagreeing with that notion.
If you recall, the nhl gave the strangers and extra day to regroup after game six. The extra day was enough to slow up our momentum and let them regroup.
But there was also an extra day between Games 3&4. So why wasn't
that extra day enough to dampen the Rangers' momentum from their wins in Games 2&3 and let the Canucks regroup?
Contrary to wishfull memories, that game seven was our poorest effort of the three last games. If that goal goes in in the third though, it all comes back to our favour and the strangers were dust.
Again, one can't prove the Canucks would have won. Nobody can prove either team would have won.
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:49 am
by sj-roc
Robbie wrote:It was decided that the final round of the 1994 Stanley Cup playoffs would only have games played on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays. The final game 7 was played on Tuesday, June 14, 1994.
The way I remember it, the NHL was trying to avoid playing games on the same days as the NY Knicks, who had a coinciding extended playoff run of their own in the NBA. I don't recall it as necessarily just an issue of MSG availability -- I think the NHL simply wanted the NY playoff spotlight to themselves for its game nights.