Reilly takes Printers spot on the 46
Lumbala will play in Lee's spot and likely Gesse or Jones gets back on the 46
Breaking News... Printers cut!
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I'd love you to say it to my face because you'd only say it once...if you ever had the courage to say it at all!! Blitz, 05/24/2008
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Left in the third qtr with a knee problem LU mentioned Wally B did not seem very encouraged but was waiting for a MRI to be certain.Blue In BC wrote:What happened to Lee?
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We really need a passrushing DE in the worst way.West Coast Blue Fan wrote:Reilly takes Printers spot on the 46
Lumbala will play in Lee's spot and likely Gesse or Jones gets back on the 46
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We just need a DE period. Right now we have what, 1 backup dressed each game?ed_lunsford wrote:We really need a passrushing DE in the worst way.West Coast Blue Fan wrote:Reilly takes Printers spot on the 46
Lumbala will play in Lee's spot and likely Gesse or Jones gets back on the 46
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More than releasing players the lions need to RELEASE CHAPBALL.....this was the last straw for me until CHAPBALL is gone, I am RELEASING myself from going to and watching anymore LION S games .
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Exactly, Pauser, how many times have we seen the 5 DE rotation come back to haunt us in games?
I can think of two, both losses, the Argos loss and the Wpg loss, add in we need a passrushing De and that unit needs some help imo.
Glad we have Rolly Lumbala ready to step in.
I can think of two, both losses, the Argos loss and the Wpg loss, add in we need a passrushing De and that unit needs some help imo.
Glad we have Rolly Lumbala ready to step in.
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Re: Adios Casey, meanwhile..
Hunt just finished his 9th game on IR, not that he could play DE, just sayin
I'd love you to say it to my face because you'd only say it once...if you ever had the courage to say it at all!! Blitz, 05/24/2008
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That must have been some kinda out of control argument that we saw but did not hear between Printers and Wilson at the end of the game. For a Winnipeg coach to come up to them and try to calm them down was very surprising. Still he was probably chuckling in side at how unglued the Lions had become.
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Now for the bigger problem more then all of this, and what has been said from the beginning, is the offensive line and their inability to protect the QB's in B.C. In addition the play calling, whether it is from the oc chap, or it is been changed at the line.Either way I have seen more then enough break downs in the offense to call this whole issue an offensive one. Defense has been solid for the most part all year with the exception of a couple games including last. O and just to add I don't think Lulay at this point in my eyes was so much better then Printers. I will say this though, Printers did seem somewhat different after his injury,he seemed less prone to run. Not sure if this was his call or oc making them. Too bad that printers had to be the scape goat. This loss doesn't happen?Does Printers get released?I think not!! O and yes it was plane as day that is if you were watching the game to see that the whole team pretty much had a meltdown and it was not just Printers. Imo JJ has been looked past way too much and not really given a chance to battle adversity.
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Attitude reflects leadership. The leadership from the top down simply isn't there and then frustrations like this come out. As great of an owner as Braley has been, his biggest mistake is not getting a football guy in here to oversee Wally's operation. Bob Ackles was a guy who not only was a very savvy businessman, but he was an excellent football guy. Skulsky is just a businessman and isn't going to question any football decision Wally would make.DanoT wrote:That must have been some kinda out of control argument that we saw but did not hear between Printers and Wilson at the end of the game. For a Winnipeg coach to come up to them and try to calm them down was very surprising. Still he was probably chuckling in side at how unglued the Lions had become.
Wally has surrounded himself with a group of yes-men who will basically do whatever he tells them. In the front office he's surrounded himself with his buddies who won't really assert themselves and will go with what Wally wants. In otherwords, this entire team and the failures that have come with it is a byproduct of Wally Buono's leadership and vision. And moves like this further prove that Wally simply has not learned from his mistakes and unless we get someone in here who will hold him accountable, we will not be getting out of this slump anytime soon.
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Bottom line this decision is not based on publicly ripping Wilson a new one after the game. A factor? Yes. The only reason? No way. But it does raise a big red flag. It shows a definite lack of leadership and professionalism from somebody who should be considered a team leader. Good leaders simply don't publicly berate team-mates in such a fashion. Good leaders don't do that in any line of business or work. If Printers carried any respect in the Lion locker room he lost it with that tirade. Other reports seem to indicate he continued his tirade in the locker room after the game too.
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I've been an on the fence person about CP. In 2004 under Burratto he was simply awesome. I don't think that Casey could flourish with the unimaginative,simple offensive scheme the Lions use. None of the other QB's are shining either. That being said there was no excuse for that kind of an outburst in a public area such as what happened. TSN got to show a lot of the Lion's warts to the rest of the country. Wally,whom I dislike as a HC by the way, had to do something and Casey was it. Was it deserved..I think so. If pigs could fly and we had an imaginative OC, maybe this wouldn't have happened. We'll never know.
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Re: Adios Casey, meanwhile..
Hmm, JB playing De maybe?West Coast Blue Fan wrote:Hunt just finished his 9th game on IR, not that he could play DE, just sayin
But I don't think he has the wheels to play passrush DE, it would have to be Keron Williams, with the front being:
Williams/Mitchell/Hunt/Brown/Johnson?
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Interesting takes on all of this. There has to be more to the story than we are getting out of the Lions office. There is no excuse for CP to get ditched like this while others that have coasted for years on this team (Wilson I am looking at you) get a free ride. I know he's not the most popular player anymore, but look at what Ricky Foley had to go through to get around Butler to actually play. Why is Wilson still around when we cut Armstrong who was our #2 receiver? Many of you may also consider the situation of RGM who got lots of chances while we let other receivers languish on the practice roster to eventually be picked up by another team. It doesn't make any sense to me standing on the sidelines watching these games why some players get a golden handshake and others are given the shaft. In this case I think Casey was shafted - BASED ON HIS PLAY. Anything in the locker room I am not privy to and cannot make judgment on.
You can't tell me that ANY of our QB's have done ANYTHING in the last few years under Chapdelaine. Take your pick of the bunch. I don't care who you choose, but just realize that they all have produced inferior numbers compared to the elite QB's of the League. There seems to be one common denominator in all of this - the offensive gameplanning and preparedness. And that falls on Chapdelaine and Dorazio. Is it surprising that the years Chapdelaine wasn't running the show were the best offensive performing?
Wally likes to blame execution by the players and that he can't execute for them. He is right, it does come down to execution between the white lines. BUT as a coach it is HIS responsibility to make sure he puts the players into a position where they can succeed - where they can execute positively. And that's where this team has been failing the players, not just this year, but in years past. He (and I mean his coaching staff) has not put the players in a position where they can succeed. It is almost like he has set them up to fail. How can you expect an offense to get anywhere when the Oline has never been the same twice? You hear analysts talk about it, you hear players talk about it and you hear coaches talk about how an Oline needs to have time to gel, to get to know each other and how they work. This coaching staff has not put this team in that position one little bit. Look at Lapolice and Kavis Reed with Hefney. Lapolice tells Reed to talk to Hefney and get him calmed down. We all saw that exchange on TV. Wally's response about lack of discipline: he's not paid to do that. Huh?? I know he is not an X's and O's type of coach but he has preached time and time again that he "manages" his coaches. Well obviously Lapolice is a better "manager" of his coaches based on the Reed/Hefney situation. So if Wally isn't an X's and O's type of coach, and can't seem to "manage" his assistant coaches - just what does he do???
Why is it that our QB's (this year excluded for some strange reason) seem to have the most injuries, are hit the most often and seem to have to run for their lives EVERY down? You hear Wally say it is because the QB's are holding onto the ball too long. Well, why are they hanging on to the ball too long? Is it because the receivers aren't open? Is it because the oline hasn't opened a throwing lane? If the receivers aren't open - why not? Is it because their routes are being run wrong? Are they too slow at getting off the ball? Can they not break free of coverage? Are their routes too long for the play being called? Is the protection scheme to short for the routes the receivers are expected to run? do we just have lousy receivers?
I wasn't much of a Printers fan, but I did not think he was given the opportunity to excel. And I believe that Casey is just the latest victim in the black hole that is the Chapdelaine "inspired" offenses. Until this is rectified I think the Lions will still sit in turmoil. And releasing Casey is NOT silver bullet that will turn this team around. But might be the one that puts it out of its misery...
You can't tell me that ANY of our QB's have done ANYTHING in the last few years under Chapdelaine. Take your pick of the bunch. I don't care who you choose, but just realize that they all have produced inferior numbers compared to the elite QB's of the League. There seems to be one common denominator in all of this - the offensive gameplanning and preparedness. And that falls on Chapdelaine and Dorazio. Is it surprising that the years Chapdelaine wasn't running the show were the best offensive performing?
Wally likes to blame execution by the players and that he can't execute for them. He is right, it does come down to execution between the white lines. BUT as a coach it is HIS responsibility to make sure he puts the players into a position where they can succeed - where they can execute positively. And that's where this team has been failing the players, not just this year, but in years past. He (and I mean his coaching staff) has not put the players in a position where they can succeed. It is almost like he has set them up to fail. How can you expect an offense to get anywhere when the Oline has never been the same twice? You hear analysts talk about it, you hear players talk about it and you hear coaches talk about how an Oline needs to have time to gel, to get to know each other and how they work. This coaching staff has not put this team in that position one little bit. Look at Lapolice and Kavis Reed with Hefney. Lapolice tells Reed to talk to Hefney and get him calmed down. We all saw that exchange on TV. Wally's response about lack of discipline: he's not paid to do that. Huh?? I know he is not an X's and O's type of coach but he has preached time and time again that he "manages" his coaches. Well obviously Lapolice is a better "manager" of his coaches based on the Reed/Hefney situation. So if Wally isn't an X's and O's type of coach, and can't seem to "manage" his assistant coaches - just what does he do???
Why is it that our QB's (this year excluded for some strange reason) seem to have the most injuries, are hit the most often and seem to have to run for their lives EVERY down? You hear Wally say it is because the QB's are holding onto the ball too long. Well, why are they hanging on to the ball too long? Is it because the receivers aren't open? Is it because the oline hasn't opened a throwing lane? If the receivers aren't open - why not? Is it because their routes are being run wrong? Are they too slow at getting off the ball? Can they not break free of coverage? Are their routes too long for the play being called? Is the protection scheme to short for the routes the receivers are expected to run? do we just have lousy receivers?
I wasn't much of a Printers fan, but I did not think he was given the opportunity to excel. And I believe that Casey is just the latest victim in the black hole that is the Chapdelaine "inspired" offenses. Until this is rectified I think the Lions will still sit in turmoil. And releasing Casey is NOT silver bullet that will turn this team around. But might be the one that puts it out of its misery...
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