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Re: Calgary 48 - BC 35 Post Game Stat and Comments

Solar Max wrote:
KnowItAll wrote:someone tell me again how printers is any better than the other two?

He isn't. He never was. KC and Hamilton confirmed that.
Actually he is. Casey last year played very very well when he wasn't corrupted by having a full training camp under Chap ball. But at least this year he's given us a chance to win. The first play of the game showed that Casey has the ability to come up with big plays. We just went away from that after it worked that first time...

Unless you're advocating that Casey block for himself, then both of you should quit your whining about Casey and turn your attentions to the real problem. The O-Line and the OC are what's wrong with this offense. The defense collapsed too.
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Two teams that have played some of the league's best defence through seven games and had given up the fewest number of big plays combined for six plays of over 30 yards, producing the highest scoring first half and highest scoring non-overtime game in the CFL this year.

It was at least the most exciting game I've seen at Empire Field but the Lions made too many mistakes, especially missed tackles on defence. Cornish's 50-yard run in the third quarter was the turning point, setting up a touchdown that restored Calgary's 14-point lead after the Lions had clawed back in the second quarter. The Stampeders then exploited B.C.'s zone defence by hitting uncovered running backs in the flat for easy first downs to add to their lead.

The B.C. offence was all-or-nothing, bombs away. Three passes to Arceneaux and Simon accounted for more than half of B.C.'s 266 yards of offence. The Lions were unable to mount an effective running game or sustain drives, resulting in a huge discrepancy in time of possession. The retooled offensive line was unable to get any push upfront.

I give Henry Burris and Dave Dickenson credit for overcoming three interceptons and finding the holes in the B.C. defence. The Stamps are a superior team.

The Lions are fortunate that they're still in the thick of the playoff race, thanks to the play of Edmonton and Winnipeg. There is time to turn this around and go on a run. I thought it would have started against Calgary. It was a disappointing to see so many mistakes in such a critical game.
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Re: Calgary 48 - BC 35 Post Game Stat and Comments

Something that struck me odd last night... during the time out on our first offensive series of the game, WB went out onto the field, almost to the numbers to yell something to Printers who came about halfway back from the one yard line to hear him. Why is that happening when the QBs are supposed to wearing headsets inside their helmets?
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sj-roc wrote:Somrthign that stuck me odd last night... during the time out on our first offensive series of the game, WB went out onto the field, almost to the numbers to yell something to Printers who came about halfway back from the one yard line to hear him. Why is that happening when the QBs are supposed to wearing headsets inside their helmets?
Because Wally doesn't wear a headset?
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Blue In BC wrote:What was with Lions fans doing the " WAVE " when Passmore was lying on the field potentially seriously injured?

That was not the time for the damn wave.

Fortunately, he appears to not have been as seriously injured as it first appeared.

What was really surprising was how many fans were booing the sections directly in front of the Passmore injury because those sections were not supporting the wave.

We quickly realized that those sections were focused on the possibly serious injury.

It was disappointing that the wavers were more interested in acting like their fun was more important than a player who may be on the ground with a life altering injury.

Honestly people could you not see the concern those sections had (as we did) for the situation!

The booing went on as long as the mindless wave did. :sigh:
“It just shows,” he said to the reporters, “that you guys don’t always see what you think you see.”
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sj-roc wrote:Something that struck me odd last night... during the time out on our first offensive series of the game, WB went out onto the field, almost to the numbers to yell something to Printers who came about halfway back from the one yard line to hear him. Why is that happening when the QBs are supposed to wearing headsets inside their helmets?
Because Wally doesn't wear a headset?
You missed my point. It's not like NOBODY on the entire coaching staff is wearing a headset.
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Well (I was sitting on the East side, and did NOT participate in the wave), for some of these fans the whole wave thing and the booing of that section was probably the most entertaining part of the game. I'm sure most had no idea what was going on as (at least from my vantage point) you really couldn't see what was happening. We knew it was serious, but I think the fans just got bored with the game and needed to do something to entertain themselves. There was also a "west side sucks" chant going on towards the end of that whole debacle.

On another note, I don't recall ever seen the stadium THAT empty with around 5 minutes left in the game. Seriously...you wanted to beat the traffic all you had to do was stay until the end.
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The_Pauser wrote:Well (I was sitting on the East side, and did NOT participate in the wave), for some of these fans the whole wave thing and the booing of that section was probably the most entertaining part of the game. I'm sure most had no idea what was going on as (at least from my vantage point) you really couldn't see what was happening. We knew it was serious, but I think the fans just got bored with the game and needed to do something to entertain themselves. There was also a "west side sucks" chant going on towards the end of that whole debacle.

On another note, I don't recall ever seen the stadium THAT empty with around 5 minutes left in the game. Seriously...you wanted to beat the traffic all you had to do was stay until the end.
You must be talking strictly about Empire; there was no shortage of premature exits @BCP last year.
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The_Pauser wrote:Well (I was sitting on the East side, and did NOT participate in the wave), for some of these fans the whole wave thing and the booing of that section was probably the most entertaining part of the game. I'm sure most had no idea what was going on as (at least from my vantage point) you really couldn't see what was happening. We knew it was serious, but I think the fans just got bored with the game and needed to do something to entertain themselves. There was also a "west side sucks" chant going on towards the end of that whole debacle.

On another note, I don't recall ever seen the stadium THAT empty with around 5 minutes left in the game. Seriously...you wanted to beat the traffic all you had to do was stay until the end.
You must be talking strictly about Empire; there was no shortage of premature exits @BCP last year.
Were you at the game last night?

I recall there were no shortage of premature exits at BC Place last year (I'm a season ticket holder...) but last night, there were MAYBE 1000 fans left at the end of the game. And that's probably being generous.
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Solar Max wrote:
KnowItAll wrote:someone tell me again how printers is any better than the other two?

He isn't. He never was. KC and Hamilton confirmed that.
Actually he is. Casey last year played very very well when he wasn't corrupted by having a full training camp under Chap ball. But at least this year he's given us a chance to win. The first play of the game showed that Casey has the ability to come up with big plays. We just went away from that after it worked that first time...

Unless you're advocating that Casey block for himself, then both of you should quit your whining about Casey and turn your attentions to the real problem. The O-Line and the OC are what's wrong with this offense. The defense collapsed too.
That first play was a off thrown ball that the receiver reacted to better than the defender. If the defender did his job right, it would not have been a completion. Most of CPs passes were off, with complete misses, or reciever having to jump high in the air, etc. Even that pass to Simon on the 1 yard line wasnt where it should have been.
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KnowItAll wrote: That first play was a off thrown ball that the receiver reacted to better than the defender. If the defender did his job right, it would not have been a completion. Most of CPs passes were off, with complete misses, or reciever having to jump high in the air, etc. Even that pass to Simon on the 1 yard line wasnt where it should have been.
Okay, so let's just go back to your favourite boy Various Jarious and have him throw 5 interceptions in a game. Would you be happier then? At least he'll have good zip on the ball and blow some receives hands off. Then you can go back to blaming other aspects of the team because your hated Casey isn't in a QB. Would that make you happy?
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KnowItAll wrote: That first play was a off thrown ball that the receiver reacted to better than the defender. If the defender did his job right, it would not have been a completion. Most of CPs passes were off, with complete misses, or reciever having to jump high in the air, etc. Even that pass to Simon on the 1 yard line wasnt where it should have been.
That is or should be the difference between a receiver and a DB, one on one they should come up with the ball. Other shorter passes were to players with a guy on their back, the location is so fine with our current schemes being known so well, that passes are being thrown to where only the receiver can catch it or off target.
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Rammer wrote: That is or should be the difference between a receiver and a DB, one on one they should come up with the ball. Other shorter passes were to players with a guy on their back, the location is so fine with our current schemes being known so well, that passes are being thrown to where only the receiver can catch it or off target.
I'm glad someone gets it.

I was watching this particularly closely, and I don't recall very many plays at all where we had wide open receivers. Most of the time our receivers had a man on them perfectly covered. It's as if the opposing team has our routes known down to a tee. How do you expect Casey, or hell even Peyton Manning to be successful when the DB's know our routes that well?

Casey played well given the circumstances. Bad playcalling, absolutely no time to set and throw or generate anything, and receivers covered like white on rice. At least Casey didn't hurt us by throwing any interceptions (our other 2 QB's have thrown interceptions for touchdowns this season).
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The_Pauser wrote:
KnowItAll wrote: That first play was a off thrown ball that the receiver reacted to better than the defender. If the defender did his job right, it would not have been a completion. Most of CPs passes were off, with complete misses, or reciever having to jump high in the air, etc. Even that pass to Simon on the 1 yard line wasnt where it should have been.
Okay, so let's just go back to your favourite boy Various Jarious and have him throw 5 interceptions in a game. Would you be happier then? At least he'll have good zip on the ball and blow some receives hands off. Then you can go back to blaming other aspects of the team because your hated Casey isn't in a QB. Would that make you happy?
I totally agree Rammer....man there is tight coverage on our receivers constantly. I just don't believe our receivers are that bad. The defenses really have to know our tendancies. You just see so many opposition receivers have so much more space between them and our defender on numerous pass plays while it seems our receivers are mostly blanketed.

Not only does our quarterback have to throw the football with guys in his face or runnning for his life but he also has to make a completion to a well covered receiver constantly.
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Blitz wrote: I totally agree Rammer....man there is tight coverage on our receivers constantly. I just don't believe our receivers are that bad. The defenses really have to know our tendancies. You just see so many opposition receivers have so much more space between them and our defender on numerous pass plays while it seems our receivers are mostly blanketed.

Not only does our quarterback have to throw the football with guys in his face or runnning for his life but he also has to make a completion to a well covered receiver constantly.
Another thing I want to add. Look at what Calgary was doing especially later in the game...they had a running back wide open in the flat. Why don't we do this? Their running back was absolutely unblocked and picked up first down after first down.

Perhaps the reason is because on most of our plays all of our receivers only run 5 yards so there's really no room to make this effective?
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