Jarious Jackson may test open market

[Toppy Vann]

"Am I going to be stubborn and spiteful a week from today if [Jackson] comes back? No. If I was interested yesterday I can work things out next week. I might just have another equation,” Buono said.

Herein lies the risk to Jackson. The new equation likely means the offer he got last week is lower if he cannot get a deal done with the Argos.

If the Argos didn't take him ...wow...unless the owner said No and I doubt Braley would get involved in that. How more Lemon-aid wold Baker need to see his Lemon is making lemonade. They are hardly filling the stands with a guy who just played not to err but certainly didn't give fans much to get excited about. Not sure he'd light the league up this year.

Jackson at 33 is likely not seen the same as if he were Cavillo - a consistent starter - at 33 so that lowers the attraction but this is a very decent and mostly durable player.

[Toppy Vann]

He hasn't seen him play in two years!!! A bit of a shocker. The Lions can take a chance on LeFors (these guys like him don't usually make it) but Argos not much interested in Jackson? A shocker as Jackson has been active and prepared to play if they needed him. The best back up in the CFL for sure.

I guess the Argos don't much like fans bothering them by coming to games. They have a huge place to fill and Lemon did very little to excite anyone. Great RB though. Argos are why soccer went to 3 points for a win as too many pro teams would play for ties on the road as a tie got you half the points available per game. When they changed it to 3 for a W, it meant tying was just about as bad as losing and teams down a goal or two would really open it up to come back and take risks making it exciting.

I am very surprised that Toronto would be so cool to Jackson - what are we missing here?

The length of time to get any interest is a bit of a shocker to me. It also no doubt changes the Lions "equation" as their GM terms it.

This may work out for him but as of this point with no one much interested in him it seems it cannot help his negotiating position with the Lions.

It is a good thing that Braley has the reputation he has for non-interference in football decisions.

I am surprised that Barker would not snap him up - film or no film. Maybe not too surprised as it is clear that no other teams are interested so I guess it means they have time to try and get the guy at the best price. I guess I am viewing Jackson as a guy who could conceivably start in Toronto and they see backup who was hurt.

[PigSkin_53]

I believe Jarious is indispensable,

Lock him up Wally!

DH

Aye to that David!

[The_Pauser]

He hasn't seen him play in two years!!! A bit of a shocker. The Lions can take a chance on LeFors (these guys like him don't usually make it) but Argos not much interested in Jackson? A shocker as Jackson has been active and prepared to play if they needed him. The best back up in the CFL for sure.

I guess the Argos don't much like fans bothering them by coming to games. They have a huge place to fill and Lemon did very little to excite anyone. Great RB though. Argos are why soccer went to 3 points for a win as too many pro teams would play for ties on the road as a tie got you half the points available per game. When they changed it to 3 for a W, it meant tying was just about as bad as losing and teams down a goal or two would really open it up to come back and take risks making it exciting.

I am very surprised that Toronto would be so cool to Jackson - what are we missing here?

The length of time to get any interest is a bit of a shocker to me. It also no doubt changes the Lions "equation" as their GM terms it.

This may work out for him but as of this point with no one much interested in him it seems it cannot help his negotiating position with the Lions.

It is a good thing that Braley has the reputation he has for non-interference in football decisions.

I am surprised that Barker would not snap him up - film or no film. Maybe not too surprised as it is clear that no other teams are interested so I guess it means they have time to try and get the guy at the best price. I guess I am viewing Jackson as a guy who could conceivably start in Toronto and they see backup who was hurt.

Barker isn't jumping at the chance to snap up Jarious because he sees Jarious for what he is. A guy who hasn't played much in almost 2 years, who never was that consistent anyways. I wouldn't trust Jarious to be my starting quarterback, and while he's a pretty solid backup compared to others around the league I wouldn't say he's the best backup in the CFL either. That title belongs to Steven Jyles IMO. At this point I also like Quinton Porter to Jackson as well, but Jackson is definitely next in line.

I think the fact that interest on Jackson has been lukewarm confirms what I've been saying about him all along. He really isn't as great as people here make him out to be. At this point, Toronto is the only team that I can see that has a starting QB job that Jackson could realistically win, and even their coach isn't all that interested in him.

If he returns to BC, okay he'll be our backup. If not, well I don't think it's that big of a loss. I do think he has the qualities of a potential quarterbacks coach in the future, so it'd be a loss from that perspective, but I don't think we'll miss what he brought on-field. You can point to his win percentage, but that's really a testament to how the team played around him moreso than what he did, especially when analyzing his peripheral stats.

I guess we'll see what happens...

[Toppy Vann]

Pauser.. all good BUT... Lemon hardly shot the lights out last year.

Their team was pretty unexciting even when winning other than the super hot RB who might be in tougher this year as defences adjust and they know that Lemon is not doing it. Of course Lemon could be better too this year.

[The_Pauser]

Pauser.. all good BUT... Lemon hardly shot the lights out last year.

Their team was pretty unexciting even when winning other than the super hot RB who might be in tougher this year as defences adjust and they know that Lemon is not doing it. Of course Lemon could be better too this year.

Oh agreed. Jarious is likely an upgrade on Lemon, although is an aging vet who's coming off a shoulder injury really the direction they want to go? Jarious is an upgrade to Lemon if healthy, but if I'm Barker I'm trying to get Porter to be honest.

[Blitz]

Pauser.. all good BUT... Lemon hardly shot the lights out last year.

Their team was pretty unexciting even when winning other than the super hot RB who might be in tougher this year as defences adjust and they know that Lemon is not doing it. Of course Lemon could be better too this year.

Oh agreed. Jarious is likely an upgrade on Lemon, although is an aging vet who's coming off a shoulder injury really the direction they want to go? Jarious is an upgrade to Lemon if healthy, but if I'm Barker I'm trying to get Porter to be honest.

You may be right Pauser..and we usually see a lot of our Leos talent in the same light..but we do disagree on Jarious's abilities. You are right in that Jackson is not a high percentage passer and he lacks touch on the underneath stuff. However, many quarterbacks have had great success without the ability to hit the underneath stuff with high percentage..from Joe Kapp to Tracy Ham.

Jarious needs a certain style of offence to be successful. An offence with a strong running game would be ideal. Jackson is an excellent play action quarterback who is strong, mobile, and throws a great deep ball. He's also very cool under pressure, has outstanding leadership abilities, and highly considered by his teammates. All those factors can go a long way. Not all great quarterbacks have been outstanding passers. However, they all have been great leaders. Our style of offence has never suited a quarterback like Jackson as it didn't suit Casey Printers either. It's a pass oriented offence that features the underneath routes and its a quick read offence. Quarterbacks as Dickenson and Lulay suit our style of offence better. Buck was a tweener but eventually we tried to make him into a Dickenson style quarterback, which was not his strength.

I believe, in the right situation, with a certain style of offence, like the one we used here in B.C. in 2007, Jackson can become a starter and a successful one at that..as he did here winning 9 of of his first 11 starts..in his first year as a starter. Jarious threw 18 touchdown passes in 2007, leading the leauge in touchdown throws that season while only playing 11 games. He knows how to get the football into the end zone. Jackson also knows our offence and its ideal to have a backup quarterback with experience, knows the offence, and is highly regarded by his teammates. Hopefully Jackson will be back for 2011 but if he isn't, he is a first class guy who deserves a crack at being a starting quarterback somewhere else. I respect him immensely.