Breaking News... Printers cut!

[Lions4ever]

Absolutely agree Pauser. JJ and Lulay will fair no better.

or "fare" either

Easy there. Your punctuation and grammar isn't good enough to be calling others out for their spelling.

Id ayn't spellin, Sparky. Idz too differnt wurds. Fare nuff?

[chewiesrevenge]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

hahaha.

all i can say is: Casey, you are DA MAN! You're awesome. If I were you, I would flex and pose after every measley (sp?) first down and scramble where you get positive yards. If you watch him, he's always doing this. Acting like he's achieved something great.... man he's really self-inflated (throwing up into garbage can)

Now we alllllll see what this guy is all about: ego-tism, sense of self importance, arogance, and yes, sub-par football skills.

He does motivational speaking, yet sells out/yells out his receiver in public (hahaha), wears #1 because, hey, he's the best! Numero uno! and carries around an air of deservedness.

Man I miss watching dave dickenson, danny mac, and heck, even jarious jackson again. Humble, straight forward leaders with a touch of class.

Printers: What a *mod edit: name calling*. This guy's football skills deserve to be in the Arena Leage 2 - if it isn't defunct.... or maybe in euro NFL if it still exists. He sucks. There's no darn comback to that view. He plain is NOT a winner in the cfl, or in the nfl. He can't run/scramble anymore (dances like a chicken on hot coals and then fumbles the ball) and isn't a pocket passer. He's a half baked can of spam. Fun to look at but tastes like junk.

At least Dickenson had the football intelligence to either eat the sack, or chuck it away into the sidelines. Same with Danny mac. Same with A.C. in Montreal. Football intelligence beats out physical skill. Same as in the NFL. Mike VIck is OK, but even still it's the QB's with the brains that win games and championships.

Way to go wally, dump the trash before it stinks up the whole house......
Learn some class.

[CatsEyes]

Easy there. Your punctuation and grammar isn't good enough to be calling others out for their spelling.

Actually I wasn't calling out his spelling because he spelled fair perfectly. I was correcting his use of the word, which these days is pretty much a hopeless cause. Please save your condescending finger wag, okay?

[Sir Purrcival]

Some of you folks need to take a little reality check. It is understandable that many didn't like Casey Printers and are glad that he is no longer around but this "Ha Ha, good riddance" crap is pretty classless. Whatever you might think about the man, he did just get his walking papers today. That is kicking someone when they are down and that is just not nice. I bet that not a one of you in that camp would feel quite so cavalier about that kind of behaviour if it was you that had just been canned. Just let the man go and demonstrate a little bit of restraint for someone who may not only have lost his job but his career love as well today.

[CatsEyes]

Some of you folks need to take a little reality check. It is understandable that many didn't like Casey Printers and are glad that he is no longer around but this "Ha Ha, good riddance" crap is pretty classless. Whatever you might think about the man, he did just get his walking papers today. That is kicking someone when they are down and that is just not nice. I bet that not a one of you in that camp would feel quite so cavalier about that kind of behaviour if it was you that had just been canned. Just let the man go and demonstrate a little bit of restraint for someone who may not only have lost his job but his career love as well today.

[DYLAN]

I dont talk a lot on this site but when i heard the news today i was shocked and saddened and i feel i have to say something. I know there are the fans and non-fans of printers but either way, you cant deny the fact that Printers never really got a fair chance. We saw what he could do in 2004/05 and there was no doubt that this guy was a CFL quarterbck. When he came back to the cfl in 07, we saw him struggle to say the least. However, that was for one of the worst teams the cfl has seen in the past 10 years. Put any great qb in any league on a team like that and they will fail. Of course his critiques attacked and beleived he was a one hit wonder. He prooved them wrong at the end of last season by coming here and playing the game his way and using his natural talent to make plays. Just go on youtube and look up last years east semi final. Of course we lost to the eventual GC champion montreal alouetes, but not bad for a team that brely made playoffs. Now what the lions should have done in the offseason was design an offence around you franchise player. Instead, our head coach stuck with an offensive cordinater that we had poblems with last year and is known to not like printers as a qb because of his style of play. So we signed this player because of his natural ability and talent but we throw all of that out the window and try and change what kind of QB he is. Not only that, but we try and make him a pocket passer that sits back and waits for routes to develop which requires a great offensive line. Unfortunatley Casey was doomed from the start. There is no doubt in my mind that casey could have brought back the same excitement we saw in 2004. I hope that another CFL team sees this in CP and honestly, if the day comes when printers is on the other side of the ball vs my beloved bc lions, i hope he lights it up and show us the mistake we made.

I know there is lots of people who like to post nasty comments on this site about Casey basically saying "i told you so" but you cant deny that CP never got his chance to show us who he was. Instead he bit his lip and gave it his all to adapt to an offence that was not designed or ment for him.

[David]

I just have no idea how people can say Casey was NOT our best QB. The stats prove otherwise. If you say Casey couldn't get the job done, well what have Lulay or Jackson done this season to prove that they could get the job done? In Jackson's case, what has he done in the past 2 or 3 seasons to suggest he can get the job done? I don't see what these guys have done to prove that they're any better than Casey...

You poor, tortured soul. What's going to happen for the rest of this season? Does your desire for the Lions to succeed supersede your hope that Travis and Jarious fall flat on their face just to validate your point?

Maybe you're wishing the Lions win each game 7-0 on an interception return for a TD, a Jamal Robertson touchdown run, or that Yonus Davis takes one to the house?

DH

[footbrawler]

That is such a load of....... I have seen all the QB throw tantrums this year. Casey being released was just to cover up a BIGGER problem with the BC Lions. This year whether it's been the O-Line ( not being able to block squat), injuries, penalties, lack of confidence and just overall lack of discipline, the Lions have issues. It is hard to say anything negative against Wally, but all he has done by making this decision is defer all the talk to Printers instead of the major problems he has with his club. If this is the correct move, then i guess the Lions will win out and win the Grey Cup, right ???????? Yeah right.

[cromartie]

Well, to his credit, I had Casey's return figured to play out like that of Khari Jones' last year in the Hammer, and he did do better.

Pretty sure I've gone on record as not being a big O'Neil Wilson fan either. He's been called out by more than one QB this year and seems to be on the roster primarily because of his passport.

I think you can reasonably take note of the offenders who's actions triggered this debacle and conclude that Casey, who does not fit into the plans of the offensive scheme designers (for better or worse) was easy to make an example out of. You aren't going any further than your defense can take you, and you aren't making a Grey Cup. Casey isn't coming back, is apparently not particularly well liked in the locker room, and he acted out the loudest and last. You have another veteran backup who is competent in a pinch and two young guys whose skill set does fit the offense, and four weeks to get them some work. So cut him and send the locker room an immediate message. Sit someone else next weekend and send another message (Moore for Wilson, maybe? Can the ratio support that?) and, if there's a recurring pattern of behavior on the other guys evaluate them in the offseason accordingly.

Now that's the optimist in me that assumes there's a plan here. The pessimist in me says that bringing him back in the first place was a bad idea and that this team could have managed 5-9 without him. But things aren't what they were, they're what they are. And if you want to judge what happens as a result of losing this game due to a lack of discipline, in my mind, you have to look beyond just Casey being cut and on to who sits out Saturday, in games moving forward, and who is not brought back for 2011 because of this and other situations like it.

[WestCoastJoe]

Good post, Dylan.

You made your points well. Not everyone here hates Printers. Not everyone here wishes him ill. He has his fans and his haters.

I never cared all that much who started. I liked all of our QBs. And I thought they all struggled in our "offence."

I thought Casey was good with the fans. We never harnessed his energy or passion or talent this year. We put him in position to fail. Our team is quite good at that.

We even put Angus Reid in position to fail, when he let all his animosity towards Printers make it into the media, out of the sanctum of the dressing room, dissing a fellow soldier.

[B.C.FAN]

I too heard the Pratt and Taylor show yesterday and today . And yes the belief is that CP had lost the teams ( that is , the PLAYERS ) confidence . And Angus Reid was on the show yesterday and did say how nervous , indecisive , tentative he was and had no confidence anymore . For those that missed it , Angus did not sound positive about Casey at all . Not good , very rare to have a player come on the radio and say what Angus said .
WB had no choice really anymore than to cut him . For those ragging on WB for cutting him , it was Wally who was the ONLY ONE willing to give Casey another chance and even gave him a big promotion at the end of last season to start him off as #1 ! Lets see where CP's career goes from here .
No Casey did not perform better than the other QB's . Sorry , but Lulay was head and shoulders better than CP last game . I , like apparently so many others , going by the posts after the game , had no confidence in Casey when he went in . At first he ran for a few first downs and actually looked pretty good , but then the nervous wreck took over again . I knew we were sunk unless Lulay came back in . Apparently so did his team mates .
Yes there were many other stupid things done in the last game , but none of those player have had a negative impact on the team like Casey has lately .
With Lulay , there is upside , he's only starting his career and shows promise to be a good QB . You can't say that about CP , we've seen the best out of him already , he was in decline long ago . No defense fears him , he used to be a threat to run with the ball when he first started and that opened up the rest of the things he did , for him . That ability to run with the ball seems to be only a distant memory now . With out it he can't do anything , he's not a pocket passer , he doesn't have a quick release , he doesn't see open receivers very well and panics when the heat is on , and every defense knows this , so they all bring the heat big time . So what is left ?
I feel bad for him and was really hopeful late last season he would prove everyone wrong , but this season has been a wash for him unfortunately . And no O/C could change that .
Early this season I bought into the blame the Chap for everything too , but it has become overwhelmingly obvious that the biggest problem was really the QB after all . There was no future for Casey here , he would never become what so many hoped for , and I suspect his career is done .

Great post pennw! I agree with everything you wrote.

I'd like to second that sentiment. In life sometimes you got to cut bait. It's time to see what Lulay can do. We already saw what CP1 could do, and that's not good enough. That's why he's gone. If the Lions were 9-5, Printers was playing like he did in 2004 and he happened to lose his cool with O'neil wilson, he still would be here. But when you're not effective, you're losing and you're not a team player...Buono had no choice.

I'll echo those sentiments. I've said all year that Casey was his own worst enemy, and put too much pressure on himself. Whether it's anxiety or panic attacks or a simple lack of confidence, he hasn't been the same since 2004. I had high hopes for him this year, and it appeared that he was on the right track going into the Calgary game but he seemed to get worse as he put more pressure on himself. If he had lost the respect of his teammates, and he publicly disrespected one of those teammates, it was time to go. He has the physical talent to succeed but that's not enough to be a successful quarterback.

[KnowItAll]

...Instead he bit his lip .....

What an ironic coment

[cromartie]

At some point we should probably consolidate these threads.

I started to do one of those fair and balance criticism type posts, but then I realized that Casey has never really played for an OC who can utilize his talents, other than Burrato.

He doesn't fit what Chap does.

He didn't fit the West Coast they tried to run with him in Hamilton.

Kansas City was a joke (as is anything with Herm Edwards name on it).

Detroit had Mike Martz at the time, who wouldn't really have been that much help either.

Back to Chap.

He certainly could have played for the 2007 coaching staff here. That playbook, run by Jarious, could also have been run quite well by Casey.

All kinds of stories here. Scheme vs. talent. Attitude. Bad agents. The consequences of going to the NFL and the damage it causes to players better suited for the CFL. Just a sad affair all around, regardless of your position.

I will say this though, the window of ability for football players closes quickly. And unless a UFL opportunity arises, I think Casey's is about to snap shut.

[Sir Purrcival]

There are some very good points being made in this thread. Many that I can get behind.

1. The coaching staff here seems to want to mold players to their schemes rather than tayloring the plans to fit their strengths.

2. The result, we have seen a merry go round of Quarterbacks and ever diminishing returns.

What I don't completely agree with.

1. Casey Printers didn't get a fair shot

Casey was certainly one of his own enemies. Whether he put too much pressure on himself or others put too much pressure on him, I don't know but he clearly didn't seem to know how to deal with it. Even though he mostly said the "right things", you often got the sense other ways that he wasn't quite buying into the words he was preaching. The looks, the gestures on the field, the sense of disconnect between him and some of the other players. It just seemed as though this was a man who was not part of the group. I had hoped that this sense was wrong but as we have heard more, it seems as though it wasn't (sadly). That rests on Casey's shoulders. Even if he didn't get a "fair" shot, it was incumbent upon him to deal with that frustration appropriately.

You would never have seen Dave Dickenson behaving the way Casey has on or off the field and the bottom line is that Casey isn't 24 anymore. The pool of excuses for him got smaller with each passing year and what may have been passed off as youth and immaturity and bad advice from a mouthy agent could no longer be used to explain away his situation now. It was up to him to try and adapt to the current scheme. I'm sure he did try but for whatever reason, he was unable to bridge the gulf between his natural talents and the wants and desires of his coaches. There has been many a player who has lost a job for that reason and though unfair in some sense, the coaches are the bosses. They make the calls and players must follow, if they don't or can't, then they risk summary dismissal.

Casey got his shot; one that no other team appeared willing to give him. That it didn't work out wasn't completely about the Coaches or the players or the playbook. If the coaching is wrong, fate will catch up with them too. If this downward trend continues, they may be facing the same situation sooner that might be expected.

2. There are lots of Nasty posters

There are some who have gone across the line in their apparent glee over the departure of Casey Printers and I have made my thoughts known about them in another thread. Some seem to have difficulty remembering how to be civil when emotions are in play. We should all urge them to try and remember that these are real people we are talking about with all the frailties and vices that comes from that conditon. However, people have the right to express their feelings about the situation both for and against.

Most of those in the "Glad he is gone camp" earnestly feel that way for a variety of reasons. Most expressed those reasons in a fair, non derogatory fashion and all power to them. The same goes for those who were "for" Casey Printers. We are all fans of this team but differ in opinion on what is the best course to set on.

Dylan, I hope you post more. I appreciated it. What you said was from a point of view that was under represented today and clearly it seemed to come from the heart. When someone is dismissed from a job that they sincerely tried to do the best they were able, that needs to be acknowledged. Posters here can appreciate that and still feel the dismissal was warranted. There is no inherent conflict or disprespect in that. So good luck to Mr. Printers. I hope that his last professional football play isn't the one that took place last Monday or the actions afterwards, his last as a player. You can't argue that he clearly loves the game of football and one might wish that if this is the end for him, that it might have worked out a little bit better for him.

[TheLionKing]

I dont talk a lot on this site but when i heard the news today i was shocked and saddened and i feel i have to say something. I know there are the fans and non-fans of printers but either way, you cant deny the fact that Printers never really got a fair chance. We saw what he could do in 2004/05 and there was no doubt that this guy was a CFL quarterbck. When he came back to the cfl in 07, we saw him struggle to say the least. However, that was for one of the worst teams the cfl has seen in the past 10 years. Put any great qb in any league on a team like that and they will fail. Of course his critiques attacked and beleived he was a one hit wonder. He prooved them wrong at the end of last season by coming here and playing the game his way and using his natural talent to make plays. Just go on youtube and look up last years east semi final. Of course we lost to the eventual GC champion montreal alouetes, but not bad for a team that brely made playoffs. Now what the lions should have done in the offseason was design an offence around you franchise player. Instead, our head coach stuck with an offensive cordinater that we had poblems with last year and is known to not like printers as a qb because of his style of play. So we signed this player because of his natural ability and talent but we throw all of that out the window and try and change what kind of QB he is. Not only that, but we try and make him a pocket passer that sits back and waits for routes to develop which requires a great offensive line. Unfortunatley Casey was doomed from the start. There is no doubt in my mind that casey could have brought back the same excitement we saw in 2004. I hope that another CFL team sees this in CP and honestly, if the day comes when printers is on the other side of the ball vs my beloved bc lions, i hope he lights it up and show us the mistake we made.

I know there is lots of people who like to post nasty comments on this site about Casey basically saying "i told you so" but you cant deny that CP never got his chance to show us who he was. Instead he bit his lip and gave it his all to adapt to an offence that was not designed or ment for him.

Excellent post