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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:23 pm
by MacNews
I have to give BC Place management credit, they seem to be on the ball when it comes to ordering replacement roof panels. They're going out and getting them pronto.

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:30 pm
by West Coast Blue Fan
The Bay carries them.....5th floor....bedding. :wink:

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:47 pm
by TheLionKing
BC Place Corporation confirmed that the fans for the melting of snow was not on at the time of the tear. Don't know whether the accumulation of snow was the cause of the accident.

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:58 pm
by David
MacNews wrote:I have to give BC Place management credit, they seem to be on the ball when it comes to ordering replacement roof panels. They're going out and getting them pronto.
Umm, I don't know whether you're being facetious or not Mac, but they don't exactly have a choice. The longer they wait the larger that rip becomes, the greater the possibility for more tears - not to mention the possibility for additional flooding inside.

DH 8)

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:38 pm
by crburrows
David wrote:
MacNews wrote:I have to give BC Place management credit, they seem to be on the ball when it comes to ordering replacement roof panels. They're going out and getting them pronto.
Umm, I don't know whether you're being facetious or not Mac, but they don't exactly have a choice. The longer they wait the larger that rip becomes, the greater the possibility for more tears - not to mention the possibility for additional flooding inside.

DH 8)
In a way, I'm more surprised that the inventory was already available.

With only half-a-dozen or so such stadia, and with such incidents rare, and with the popular "just-in-time" inventorying method, it causes me to wonder if there is an entire backup roof "at the ready," or nearly so, with only a little bit of tailoring required.

Did somebody say the replacement cost for the entire roof would be ~30M? Seems a bit high, but at 7%, the annual opportunity cost for holding this kind of inventory would be about $2M. Even if half of the $30M was for the installation, the opportunity cost is still about $1M per year.

Who's got that kind of money to burn?

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:08 pm
by SammyGreene
Crosley said a new roof -- in the same marshmallow style as the current one -- would cost $20 million to $30 million, but the "sky's the limit" if other designs are considered.
If they are serious about keeping the dome beyond 2010 ... then a new roof should be ordered now rather than continous patch jobs and ordering new panels.

Any kind of hesitation otherwise is a tip of the hat in which way they are leaning with their long-term decision.

144 panels

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:30 pm
by 120dB
The roof is composed of 144 panels. If they had to replace all of them, they wouldn't finish by the time the Lions start up (June). And they couldn't do a partial repair; all 144 panels have to be up before inflation. Either it's all there or no go. It's not like a solid roof.

In 1982 it took 14 months to build the roof. I have the old newsclippings and souvenir magazines. Also remember that in 1982 they started from scratch, and in this case they would have to take down the 144 panels and replace with 144 new panels. Mabey 18 months.

Forget about a new stadium. There's no money for a new Stadium. And where would they build it?

Where would the Lions play for 3 seasons? 4? Swangard? Think any owner wants to take that lump?

What's the justification for a new stadium? Do you think that a new stadium will suddenly "make money"? How?

Do we have NFL? No. Major League Baseball? No. That was the impetus for creating the dome in the first place; to attract a major league sports franchise to our city.

We have the Lions and they need a home to play in. The Stadium stays.

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:40 pm
by KnowItAll
So There !! :yes:

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:29 pm
by MacNews
David wrote:Umm, I don't know whether you're being facetious or not Mac, but they don't exactly have a choice. The longer they wait the larger that rip becomes, the greater the possibility for more tears - not to mention the possibility for additional flooding inside.

DH 8)
I'm used to government being as slow and cheap as possible. The fact that panels are on the way is encouraging. I know they have no other options but still, I'm not used to this speed!

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:36 pm
by Jim Mullin
CTV had an architectural expert on who suggested they take the roof off now, and keep it off past the Olympics.

Who is this clown? Does he not know there's no drainage in the place? That the electrical is indoor standard? That much of what BC Place stages is dependent on having an indoor facility? Or that the walls which lean into the facility are supported in part by the upward pressure in the roof's design.

Talk about irresponsible. :thdn:

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:48 pm
by KnowItAll
Jim Mullin wrote:CTV had an architectural expert on who suggested they take the roof off now, and keep it off past the Olympics.

Who is this clown? Does he not know there's no drainage in the place? That the electrical is indoor standard? That much of what BC Place stages is dependent on having an indoor facility? Or that the walls which lean into the facility are supported in part by the upward pressure in the roof's design.

Talk about irresponsible. :thdn:
must have been a rider fan :twisted:

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:22 pm
by Rammer
Jim Mullin wrote:CTV had an architectural expert on who suggested they take the roof off now, and keep it off past the Olympics.

Who is this clown? Does he not know there's no drainage in the place? That the electrical is indoor standard? That much of what BC Place stages is dependent on having an indoor facility? Or that the walls which lean into the facility are supported in part by the upward pressure in the roof's design.

Talk about irresponsible. :thdn:
Quick get his name and then we can investigate his history, just to make sure that he isn't involved with anyones highrise building. That report is so far off base, that you have to wonder why CTV didn't come here first for a quote with more accuracy.

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:24 pm
by Jim Mullin
And we wonder how we ended up with thousands of leaky condos in this burg....

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:37 pm
by Canuck_4_Life
MacNews wrote:I have to give BC Place management credit, they seem to be on the ball when it comes to ordering replacement roof panels. They're going out and getting them pronto.
Meanwhile, Rene Fassel, President of the IIHF and go between between the IOC and VANOC keeps a careful watch on the proceedings................

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:42 pm
by MacNews
Jim Mullin wrote:And we wonder how we ended up with thousands of leaky condos in this burg....
I'm still surprised everytime I see a leaky condo. Condos aren't a 'new' housing type. It takes millions to build one. Yet developers couldn't get it right. Unbelievable.