CFL: Rating the teams

[KnowItAll]

Power Ranking should be:

1. Calgary
2. Hamilton
3. Sask.
4. B.C.
5. Toronto
6. Montreal
7. Edmonton
9. Winnipeg

cant make up my mind between bc and tor, but otherwise, works for me

[notahomer]

Power Ranking should be:

1. Calgary
2. Hamilton
3. Sask.
4. B.C.
5. Toronto
6. Montreal
7. Edmonton
9. Winnipeg

I like the Bombers @ nine!!!! I actually agree with you though. In a lot of ways the RedBlacks will have a lot less baggage (ex-coaches still being paid etc...) so they probably so deserve to be ranked ahead of the BOmbers. This time next year, IMO, there IS NO WAY the Bombers are last..... Watch me regret saying this a year from now.....

[notahomer]

After the latest rounds of games including Calgary, Toronto, Sask and Montreal wins (Edm, Wpg, BC and Ham losses). As per usual mine will PROBABLY be different from CFL and TSN. Theirs usually differ somewhat too.....

Calgary (clearly #1 and I don't see anybody beating them until 2014 in games that matter).
Toronto (won this week and probable East Rep.)
Hamilton (come on Ticats, is that for real. What you don't want a playoff game at Guelph?)
Riders (2nd best in the West but there is no way they are the third home team in a row to win Cup on hometurf)
BC (okay, the games have to be played. recent past shows this team is done until 2014, thankfully they are in playoffs)
Montreal (now they are in and if they keep winning, who knows maybe the Big Owe hosts a Semi)
Bombers (thought they were a lock for the second pick in the draft but.....)
Eskimos (Whats that piece of wood called on wind instruments like saxaphones?.... Theirs needs changing....)

Of course others may have different rankings. The beauty is that I have LOVED THE LOOK of the LIONs at so many times during so many seasons at this POINT and then due to a terrible playoff outing by the Lions spent the winter going Like last season, for e.g. So, even though the regular season helps decide where the games are played and whose in em, its upto the Coaches/Players to decide who wins em. GO LIONS!!!!

[notahomer]

http://cfl.ca/article/cflca-power-ranki ... owers-leos

Lots of surprises in the CFL's 'mathematical' power rankings, IMO...... My points? Riders are #2? Defence was good but that is what beat BC (with BC's help, IMO), not the Sask offence. Montreal surges ahead of BC? Obviously I have some orange tinted sunglasses but comeON. Will these change next week? Calgary/Sask next week...... Would BC get much credit, IF, they were able to beat an Eskimo team below them in the rankings...?

Calgary
Sask
Toronto
Hamilton
Montreal
BC
EDM
Bombers

[notahomer]

Here's the TSN rankings, again some surprises, IMO

http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/feature/?id=97698

Calgary
Sask
Toronto
Montreal
Hamilton
BC
Bombers
Edm

Maybe I'm just green with envy but I'm surprised the Riders are ranked so high. Then again, their record shows they've done well compared to most. And they did DESTROY the Lions. Little surprised Hamilton/Montreal flipped spaces. Montreal won big but.... And as the link shows, the Bombers rose a spot even though they lost the game (argos).

[notahomer]

Here is my last shot with games to go. My rankings have not changed since last week. I guess I could have dropped the Riders ranking but they were close enough to the Stamps, I feel these are about right. I hope to see the Lions rising and Riders falling based on next weeks games. Meaningless, standings-wise yes, but meaningless, NOT IMO.....

1. Calgary
2. Toronto
3. Hamilton
4. Riders
5. Lions
6. Als
7. Bombers
8. Eskimos

The TSN and CFL power rankings usually change but this week could be a bit different. The only top 5 team to lose was the Riders and they didn't lose by much to the #1 ranked team. So we'll see how their rankings work out. One uses a social discussion model (I think) and the other uses a computer model (algorithm). What you are going in has nothing to do with whether you are going to win/not........

[Toppy Vann]

Here is my last shot with games to go. My rankings have not changed since last week. I guess I could have dropped the Riders ranking but they were close enough to the Stamps, I feel these are about right. I hope to see the Lions rising and Riders falling based on next weeks games. Meaningless, standings-wise yes, but meaningless, NOT IMO.....

1. Calgary
2. Toronto
3. Hamilton
4. Riders
5. Lions
6. Als
7. Bombers
8. Eskimos

The TSN and CFL power rankings usually change but this week could be a bit different. The only top 5 team to lose was the Riders and they didn't lose by much to the #1 ranked team. So we'll see how their rankings work out. One uses a social discussion model (I think) and the other uses a computer model (algorithm). What you are going in has nothing to do with whether you are going to win/not........

I can't see them coming out different this week for the same reasoning you are using.

Who knows what the Lions will do next week.

[notahomer]

Weird quirk with the TSN rankings. The rankings themselves make sense....

http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/feature/?id=97698

The only differences is the Ticats are in fourth (5), BC Lions fifth (6) and Montreal sixth (4).

The weird quirk will be getting fixed soon so here it is......

"For the first time since Kory Sheets proclaimed himself the better back than Jon Cornish the two met head to head and Cornish let his play do the talking. Cornish ran for 109 yards and one touchdown to Sheets’ 42 yards as Calgary clinched first in the West Division with the win. His Week 18 performance should solidify the Most Outstanding Player award for the Stamps running back."

Makes sense right? Sure, but its posted under the Stampeders ranking, the Riders ranking, the Argos ranking and the Ticats ranking

(Just emailed TSN so all the sheets about Sheets will soon be fixed, I'm sure..... )

[notahomer]

Yup, TSN.ca fixed the messed up Sheets files..... Good little writeups for all the rankings now.....

[notahomer]

Well the CFL algorithym makes ZERO sense to me. Absolutely no changes to their rankings whatsoever......

http://cfl.ca/power-rankings

I thought weekly wins/losses might have some kind of impact however stats and other stuff must be in there too. IMO, the Riders offense did not look great in any game since the Riders big win here in BC Place but they stay clearly in second. By all means rank them ahead of BC. I get that, makes sense. We had two head2heads with the season on the line, they won both but I still don't see them in second. The Al's are still ranked ahead of the Lions and that just doesn't make sense, IMO. Means nothing, I get it. Obviously I have a 'notahomer'bias so I think my rankings are bang on but given a choice between the two the TSN ones make more sense. What worries me is that stats often have a way of proving themselves right. So, IOW, if they have figured out a great algoriythm, this may translate well into results in the playoffs. I sure hope the Lions are not behind the AL's. I guess if you don't win the Grey Cup none of it matters........

[notahomer]

http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/feature/?id=97698

Well no change in the TSN rankings except the Bombers are back in the basement for now. I'm betting that they won't bethe basement boys come the next version of the power rankings next spring however as the RedBlacks will probably take over that spot, for the time being anyways......

Reading the blurbs, you kinda wonder if TSN hopes the Riders make it a threepeat in terms of Hosts making it to the Grey Cup. And maybe even winning it.... I've seen enough posts on Riderfans they don't seem so sure about their offence either. I know they respect it more than I do but put it this way.... GREEN IS NOT the new grey

[notahomer]

http://cfl.ca/power-rankings

Don't think the algorithm is getting pumped this week. They don't have rankings for week six so could be wrong. The rankings don't matter but I'm interested nonetheless....

[David]

Not that it really matters, but I am not sure how the Leos could be 5th in one ranking and 6th in another with an 11-7 record that was tied for 3rd in the league. I 'get' that the Stamps' weren't too focussed coming in, were resting some starters on the O-line, played all 3 QBS (so did we) and lost 4 players to injury during the game (including Cornish with a mild shoulder injury), but that's not our fault. We did what we needed to do and knocked off the #1 team in the league. Surely that's enough to get past the woefully inconsistent Ti-Cats and an 8-10 Alouette team?


DH

[B.C.FAN]

The Lions' 11-7 record was tied with Saskatchewan and Toronto for second best in the league. And if these really are power rankings, the Lions should get credit for being on a league-best two-game winning streak (along with Hamilton) and having two healthy, veteran quarterbacks and their running game humming efficiently as they head into the playoffs. It's nice to be an underdog but the Lions have nothing to fear in Saskatchewan except themselves.

The mathematical power rankings show the Lions third, just behind Saskatchewan, which is probably fair.

[notahomer]

The Lions' 11-7 record was tied with Saskatchewan and Toronto for second best in the league. And if these really are power rankings, the Lions should get credit for being on a league-best two-game winning streak (along with Hamilton) and having two healthy, veteran quarterbacks and their running game humming efficiently as they head into the playoffs. It's nice to be an underdog but the Lions have nothing to fear in Saskatchewan except themselves.

The mathematical power rankings show the Lions third, just behind Saskatchewan, which is probably fair.

Thanks for posting the algorithm rankings! I kept checking and they are the last ones usually posted. I think these ones make sense. Like others have said, ever since WCJ started this thread (and prior versions of it, IIRC), the rankings are meaningless. The wins/losses happen out on the field. Its just a neat discussion point, IMO. I really would like a peek behind the curtain of the mathematical rankings. What gets given weight, what gets less weight etc.... For example, I've read that turnovers help win games (DUH!). But not every team that wins the turnover battle wins the game. Anyway I'd be curious as to how they build the formula that spits out their CFL rankings.....