BC Lions Coaching Changes

[David]

Solid No to Jarius as a head coach and offensive coordinator.

I get the latter, but do you not believe he could be good head coaching material? He went 7-6 after the disastrous start.


DH

[Toppy Vann]

Lots of smoke arising here.

The owner didnt exactly smother the flames but there is nothing new in this story other than GC week has to be over first before they do a year end review that they can speak to.

https://3downnation.com/2024/11/15/ever ... ls-future/


Guilio's speculation is highly intriguing for sure as if he didn't have some solid inklings given his need for good relationships with the GMs and HC I can't see see why he'd go out on a limb on this.

I'm a believer that Buck has what it takes to be a HC despite any favourable biases I am willing to admit to here. As David says, he just might be a lifer in the 'Peg.

Hambone's right - Wally was an advisor and not the one calling the shots in either Edmonton or Montreal and no one can criticize the hiring of Macioca in Montreal as GM. IIRC he interviewed for the job with a plan and a HC in mind - and that pick and his coaching of the coach - Jason Maas suggests this is not the same old Danny Macioca as he was in Edmonton. He's grown immensely. Right now the only controversy in MTL is dealing with the QB where Davis Alexander is poised to try FA if he's not going to be no. 1. It's a tough call at QB as Fajardo is deservedly their starter but Davis Alexander is not coming back it seems if he can find another opening in the CFL to start. Macioca may be bargaining a bit here but he can't afford two QBs on starter money.

In BC I wonder if the huge QB contract means BC is screwed with the lack of cash for other players. That on top of how the team viewed the demise of VA is not making for an easy off season.

[SammyGreene]

Lots of smoke arising here.

The owner didnt exactly smother the flames but there is nothing new in this story other than GC week has to be over first before they do a year end review that they can speak to.

https://3downnation.com/2024/11/15/ever ... ls-future/


Guilio's speculation is highly intriguing for sure as if he didn't have some solid inklings given his need for good relationships with the GMs and HC I can't see see why he'd go out on a limb on this.

Thanks for the link TV. Gulio's contract with the team must have ended with the season to put that all out there on a sports talk show. He is typically very guarded of his criticism during the season as a paid employee but he has obviously spoken to someone within the organization.

Farhan said "some changes" are coming and the Lions will get "some answers" next week which perhaps reflects the opportunity to talk to potential coaching candidates. Other than Rigmaiden, who else is going come out of this still employed by the club?

[Lion Guy]

Solid No to Jarius as a head coach and offensive coordinator.

Agreed

[don corleone]

Bumping Rigmaiden is a big step imo and sounds like a plan coming from McEvoy to me. Not much of a CFL background other than with the Lions so not sure how that ship would sail.

[don corleone]

Not that anyone is asking, and assuming there is something to the rumour I toss the ball to Chris Jones and ask him to try again. No one works harder and he is passionate about the game. He also knows personnel as witnessed by Nick Anderson winning rookie of the year.

Could also bump VA to HC as he has those kind of qualities. He can't be OC but he could be HC.

If that fails I have an uncle who is pretty smart.

[Lion Guy]

Not that anyone is asking, and assuming there is something to the rumour I toss the ball to Chris Jones and ask him to try again. No one works harder and he is passionate about the game. He also knows personnel as witnessed by Nick Anderson winning rookie of the year.

Could also bump VA to HC as he has those kind of qualities. He can't be OC but he could be HC.

If that fails I have an uncle who is pretty smart.

Hard no to Jones. He leaves a mess behind where ever he goes

[Hambone]

No, no, NO to Jones unless you're OK with constant change, roster turnover and chaos.

[Toppy Vann]

Just listened to that interview with Guilio and he's making some bold statements that I suspect coming from someone who needs closeness with the Lions football folks is more than just speculation. Usually these local guys who need to be able to speak to the players and GMs as noted by others are very cautious in any thing they say that might make their next visit to Lions territory a bit frosty.

"There's going to be some major moves I think with the coaching staff and the way the structure of the team is.."

I'd surmise that the reference to "structure" might lead to a separation of the HC from the GM role and no more co-GMs - a structure that should never be gotten into as it limits who you can hold accountable.

The VA situation is one thing BUT if the QB is Nathan Rourke and his contract is massive, it suggests this team might have to go younger as FAs won't be rushing to sign here. If your talent assessments were on par with the Bombers, Argos and Als, then maybe a new GM with the right HC and coaching staff can pull this off.

Guilio MUST be in the know or he'd not be saying changes as early as Monday or early next week.

I guess a win would be if the Elks hired Rick Campbell and the Lions get off cheap and they could force a mitigation of any settlement on his contract on him which is the legal standard in BC and Canada (not always enforced though).

This team will not win GCs with the way they're heading under this regime as they can't hold a candle to the teams with more varied approach to the offense.

Fixing their DEF is a massive challenge and the standards are other teams now.

I don't like to see coaches fired but unless the BC OC and DC get better HC's, they'll not get better. Ryan looked like a future great coach but not sure if it's talent or his coaching views that are failing him lately. A bit of both likely BUT coaching is still important in football.

[don corleone]

No, no, NO to Jones unless you're OK with constant change, roster turnover and chaos.

Actually coming into the season Elks had one of the fewest number of free agents listed for the coming year. While there were new additions the roster did not turn over near as much as it did in his previous years. They are also blessed with some good draft picks that he made but won't get credit for. Brodrique and Dublanko among them. Elks were a young team in 2024.

The other thing is getting fired being such a wonderful learning experience for the next time. It's very underrated.

[maxlion]

Not that anyone is asking, and assuming there is something to the rumour I toss the ball to Chris Jones and ask him to try again. No one works harder and he is passionate about the game. He also knows personnel as witnessed by Nick Anderson winning rookie of the year.

That won’t be a popular opinion and is probably a major longshot, but I agree that he brings a lot of passion and knowledge. I would be hesitant to give him too much leeway with regards to personnel for the reasons Hambone mentions (although a little chaos can sometimes be a good thing).

[SammyGreene]

Nice update from Farhan. He is confident McElvoy is safe with the only potential impact on him being a tweaking of his official title.

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[Hambone]

No, no, NO to Jones unless you're OK with constant change, roster turnover and chaos.

Actually coming into the season Elks had one of the fewest number of free agents listed for the coming year. While there were new additions the roster did not turn over near as much as it did in his previous years. They are also blessed with some good draft picks that he made but won't get credit for. Brodrique and Dublanko among them. Elks were a young team in 2024.

The other thing is getting fired being such a wonderful learning experience for the next time. It's very underrated.

That they did but despite the smallest group of pending FAs they still turned over half the roster which led them to an 0-7 start before Jones was fired. In 2023 they started out 0-9 before chalking up their first win. An 8-33 record under Jones' leadership is not going to sell here.

I'm sure Broderique and Dublanko will develop into good players but that should be expected when picking 2nd and 1st overall respectively


I'm contemplating dumping my season tickets not because of the team and season but strictly due to the travel and accommodation costs that come with living 800km away from BC Place. Bringing Jones in would make dumping them a no-brainer.

[David]

Nice update from Farhan. He is confident McElvoy is safe with the only potential impact on him being a tweaking of his official title.

What do you guys think about McEvoy coming back? He hasn't been talked about much on here. Hits and misses.

Hits: signing FA Betts, picking up guys like Rene off the scrap heap (don't think we have seen his best yet), trade for VA, drafting Rourke, Hladik, Varga. FA pickups like McInnis, Stanback.

Misses: chronically unable to meaningfully upgrade the O and D lines, FA signings like Pete Robertson, questionable recent high draft picks like Cherry, Bemiy, Una. Letting Sayles go in a season where he was needed. Also, I don't mind losing Doman's cash for going over the SMS, but will be pissed if we lose a draft pick. Swung for the fences on Rourke and Betts for the Grey Cup hosting season and missed.


DH

[don corleone]

I'm contemplating dumping my season tickets not because of the team and season but strictly due to the travel and accommodation costs that come with living 800km away from BC Place. Bringing Jones in would make dumping them a no-brainer.

If half the stories flying around this week are true you won't have to worry about Chris Jones in BC.

Seeing done deal with Ed Hervey to Edmonton and consideration being given to Orlando Steinhauer as HC. Some form of Milanovich and Jones would seem to be the obvious succession plan for the Ti-Cats.

I'm curious if Rick Campbell is involved with Lion activities this week with all the rumours of him going to Edmonton. Sounds like his days in the land of the setting sun will be coming to an end. Also don't see him working well with Hervey so we'll see how that ends up.

Strangest rumour so far is Jake Maier to the Riders but it seems a little early for that.