Both Khari Jones and Barron Miles have been let go with GM Danny Macoicia taking over the HC duties and Noel Thorpe handling the DC duties until the end of season. I wonder if this is the precursor to Thorpe's getting the HC job he has been looking for a while.
With Redblacks and Argo's not doing well, I wasn't expecting Al's to be the first to pull the trigger...
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I've expected this since the day Macoicia was hired as GM. Now he can show the league once again what a terrible HC he is.
Hasn't Montreal already had enough of GMs who think they can coach? The more things change...
Hasn't Montreal already had enough of GMs who think they can coach? The more things change...
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Maybe there were more issues there than what we saw on the field of play. Tre Watson's surprising release was apparently due to not one, but two incidents with team mates and/or coaches during the last game. Could be some underlying internal problems. If there's stuff going on between Miles and his players and Jones is failing to control it perhaps that's why the sudden change?
I wouldn't call them issues but often there seems to be a disconnect when a new GM inherits an incumbent coach as Maciocia did with Jones. There's always speculation the new GM would want his own HC sooner than later unless the two quickly develop a solid working raport. One would think if Maciocia wanted to make a change he might have done it during the most recent offseason. Stern does come across as a hands-on owner, perhaps impatiently so. That makes it hard to guess if this move is all Maciocia's doing or if it might fall under the "what interests my boss fantasizes the hell out of me" category. Apparently Jones was in the last year of his contract so he was somewhat of a lame duck. That he wasn't awarded an extension before the season is a sign that he wasn't on the most stable of ground. If both Jones and Miles contracts were set to expire at year end then there's very little in terms of FOPs cap implications to endure.
I'm not a fan of midseason coaching changes but with all 4 East clubs floundering around playing well below the level of talent they possess making a move early might be just what a team needs to quickly separate themselves from the rest.
I wouldn't call them issues but often there seems to be a disconnect when a new GM inherits an incumbent coach as Maciocia did with Jones. There's always speculation the new GM would want his own HC sooner than later unless the two quickly develop a solid working raport. One would think if Maciocia wanted to make a change he might have done it during the most recent offseason. Stern does come across as a hands-on owner, perhaps impatiently so. That makes it hard to guess if this move is all Maciocia's doing or if it might fall under the "what interests my boss fantasizes the hell out of me" category. Apparently Jones was in the last year of his contract so he was somewhat of a lame duck. That he wasn't awarded an extension before the season is a sign that he wasn't on the most stable of ground. If both Jones and Miles contracts were set to expire at year end then there's very little in terms of FOPs cap implications to endure.
I'm not a fan of midseason coaching changes but with all 4 East clubs floundering around playing well below the level of talent they possess making a move early might be just what a team needs to quickly separate themselves from the rest.
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Whether he is or isn't remains to be seen. Sometimes a different voice makes a bigger difference than the coaching skills themselves. Remember Greg Mohns?
Main reason I don't like midseason coaching changes is they tend to have a short shelf life. If the change creates improved short-term results which can happen with only a partial season left the team is almost obligated to give the replacement a longer term deal. And of course the pool of available candidates is far shallower midseason than after the season. I've seen all too often where a midseason replacement gets extended and within 12 to 24 months he is being replaced midseason. That's why I don't mind seeing a GM with coaching experience step in temporarily as Maciocia is doing.............as long as he's doing it with the intent of it being temporary until he can fill the job permanently in the offseason when there are far more candidates available.
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The way Edmonton is going tonight, maybe they should change Joneses 
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The way Edmonton's QBs have played I wouldn't be surprised if Vernon Adams is playing for a new Coach Jones by next week. I hope not. Chris Jones will destroy Adams.Coast Mountain Lion wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:23 pmThe way Edmonton is going tonight, maybe they should change Joneses
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For whatever it's worth this 3D article seems to echo my navel gazing about the somewhat surprising sacking of Jones and Miles.
https://3downnation.com/2022/07/07/it-j ... sidelines/
https://3downnation.com/2022/07/07/it-j ... sidelines/
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