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Funny how Dr. Henry relaxed the rules in time for Canucks home opener. Can you say collusion. BB
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Unless Campbell makes some changes he might be changed. Start with new O and D coordinators.
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Our offensive schemes are built around having a strong O line that allows our qbs Togo through their reads but that's impossible with our o line so if it isn't personnel it's the schemes and they are easier to change than getting newplayers.
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And it's obvious that w need to move on from Reilly.he isn't playing well and he uisnt a young guy anymore. And a quick strike offense is good when it works but it isn't working and with the frequent 2 ,and outs it really puts a lot of stress on our defense
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And the entire team looked disorganized which makes me wonder if Campbell had lost the room and the team isn't playing for him.
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Ryan Phillips was a poor db at best and he sucks ad a DC . No scheme visible. Blitz paxCkages are routinely reacted to by competent offensive teams. But all parts of our team sucks right now and unless Campbell gets serious and makes some changes our season will be over I'd 3 weeks
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Reg18 wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:01 pm
Ryan Phillips was a poor db at best and he sucks ad a DC .
He was a very good DB and he is not the DC.
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Ryan Phillips as a DB was not a big hitter, just an outstanding cover guy and big time interception guy. Probably end up in the CFL HOF.

Phillips was thrown into the job of game day rookie D play caller in what is his 2nd or 3rd season as a DB coach. He has 4 or 5 rookies starting on D. The DBs are the stength of the Lions D, giving up very few deep plays making them more susceptible to the dink and dunk short game.

On O another rookie play caller plus Reilly's tendency to hold onto the ball until the deep pass receiver comes free puts way too much pressure on the O line. Reilly needs to be forced to play a quick release short passing game.

Want to improve the run game? It's simple. Stop with the RPO so the O lineman know when it is a running play and can then run at guys past the line of scrimmage. Downfield run blocking is a beautiful thing but it is not allowed on RPO plays in case it ends up a pass play....or it just ends up as an ineffective run play due to ineffective blocking. :bang: :dizzy:
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Reilly is not the problem. Still a contender for best in the league. Rest of the team around him is making him look bad. Yet, he is still second in Yards passed, second in QB effic, second in completion pct.

We do not need to move on from Reilly except maybe for salary cap reasons.
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KnowItAll wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:30 pm
Reilly is not the problem. Still a contender for best in the league. Rest of the team around him is making him look bad. Yet, he is still second in Yards passed, second in QB effic, second in completion pct.

We do not need to move on from Reilly except maybe for salary cap reasons.
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Of all of the problems we currently face (ineffective pass rush, mediocre offensive line, lack of a return game, sluggish cover teams, no running game to speak of, perfunctory overall effort the last couple of games), Reilly has been one of the bright spots this season.

He had a bad game, certainly by his standards. Was just off on his throws and didn't see the field all that well. But calls for him to move on are laughable. Would I prefer he ate up less of our SMS? Definitely. Time to move on? Not while Rourke is still developing. Ask me again in two years.


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DanoT wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:51 pm
Want to improve the run game? It's simple. Stop with the RPO so the O lineman know when it is a running play and can then run at guys past the line of scrimmage. Downfield run blocking is a beautiful thing but it is not allowed on RPO plays in case it ends up a pass play....or it just ends up as an ineffective run play due to ineffective blocking. :bang: :dizzy:
I struggle to buy that theory Dano. All teams run RPO schemes. If that was the problem why is it others run the ball successfully while the Lions struggle? The Lions run game seems to struggle even on plays that are clearly running plays right from the snap. And if it's a case of making the run decision during pre-snap reads then I'd assume Reilly is relaying that to his OL when barking out the signals.
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Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:25 pm
Thank the Canucks for this. They have been selling regular season home games at full capacity on the assumption it would be allowed in time for the home opener on the 26th. (This is partly why they started the season on the onerous road trip, since Vancouver is the only Canadian NHL venue that is still limiting. ) It would have been a very messy round of refunds if Dr Henry hadn't relaxed the limits.
The main reason the Canucks started on the road is because the Kraken couldn't start at home until this coming weekend.

For scheduling and travel purposes for visiting teams the Vancouver and Seattle schedules will be somewhat tied to the hip. For obvious reasons the NHL will want to, as much as possible, have visiting teams hit both Vancouver and Seattle on the same road swing. There's 10 instances between now and Christmas where teams hit both Vancouver and Seattle for games within 1-3 days of each other. MIN, NYR, ANA, COL, CHI, PIT, WPG, CBJ, TOR and AZ will all play the Canucks and Kraken one after the other.

Starting in late November the Canucks go back east on a 5 game road trip that sees them away from Rogers Arena for 12 days. For 8 of those 12 days Seattle will also be back east on a 4 game road trip of their own. In December the Canucks have a stretch starting Dec 4 until New Years that will see them play 10 of 14 at home. Interspersed amongst the home games are two 1 game road trips to San Jose and a 2 game trip to Anaheim and LA to finish off the calendar year. Similarly Seattle comes home for a stretch starting Dec 3 until New Years where they play 9 of 13 at home with one 2 game road trip to California and single games to Vancouver and Calgary bookending the Christmas break.

Throughout the entire schedule there's a lot of overlap of Canucks and Kraken being at home at roughly the same time and away at roughly the same time. You can almost bet that if some special event made either Rogers Arena or Key Arena unavailable for say 10 days both the Canucks and Kraken would get scheduled for road trips.
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Question for Reg18.

Since you want the Coach, Offensive Coordinator, Defensive Coordinator and quarterback all fired, Do you have any replacements in mind?

If we fire all the coaches, where are they going to find qualified coaches to take over during the season?

Where are you going to find a QB that will be able to jump in and put up the numbers Reilly has put up this year?

Roarke is a rookie and has shown lots of promise but playing him over Reilly is not going to lead us into the wonderland.

With Covid any new coaches or players would have to go through a quarantine period before joining the team.

With 5 games left we need to continue to play Reilly who gives us our best chance to make the playoffs. If we are eliminated early then you play Roarke to develop him and get a better look at him.

At the end of the year you evaluate the coaching staff and then make changes if need be.

Sorry Reg, but I just can't agree with your post as you have not offered up any viable solutions to the problem. I just can't see how Firing everyone without providing replacements will solve our problems.
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I agree with most of that and I think that there isn't little point to stirring the pot now by making wholesale changes but the coaching staff may not want to be too comfortable in the off season if the team continues in the current vein. Most significantly in my books is the ongoing, never ending search for a defensive line that can put significant pressure on the opposition. How many years have we been talking about that? 10, 15? It is ridiculous. The same can be said about our Offensive line. When was the last time that those on this board could generally agree we had a top notch Oline? Was it the Murphy, Jimenez (sp?) era? Cause I can't seem to think of anytime recently where we have been able to say that we have had QB protection that is necessary to do that job.

Our run game basically went with Andrew Harris. We have had some success there during brief interludes but nothing sustained. I don't know what it is with this organization but the issues that seem a plain as day never seem to get adequately addressed. It just goes on and on and in the off season we will see new signings and they will supposedly be the answer and then they fall short by a considerable margin. Just look at our DLine. Is there one name that jumps out as above average? or even average? . If the goal is to win, then what has been done isn't good enough by a long shot and hasn't been for some time.
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Hambone wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:19 am
BC 1988 wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:25 pm
Thank the Canucks for this. They have been selling regular season home games at full capacity on the assumption it would be allowed in time for the home opener on the 26th. (This is partly why they started the season on the onerous road trip, since Vancouver is the only Canadian NHL venue that is still limiting. ) It would have been a very messy round of refunds if Dr Henry hadn't relaxed the limits.
The main reason the Canucks started on the road is because the Kraken couldn't start at home until this coming weekend.

For scheduling and travel purposes for visiting teams the Vancouver and Seattle schedules will be somewhat tied to the hip. For obvious reasons the NHL will want to, as much as possible, have visiting teams hit both Vancouver and Seattle on the same road swing. There's 10 instances between now and Christmas where teams hit both Vancouver and Seattle for games within 1-3 days of each other. MIN, NYR, ANA, COL, CHI, PIT, WPG, CBJ, TOR and AZ will all play the Canucks and Kraken one after the other.

Starting in late November the Canucks go back east on a 5 game road trip that sees them away from Rogers Arena for 12 days. For 8 of those 12 days Seattle will also be back east on a 4 game road trip of their own. In December the Canucks have a stretch starting Dec 4 until New Years that will see them play 10 of 14 at home. Interspersed amongst the home games are two 1 game road trips to San Jose and a 2 game trip to Anaheim and LA to finish off the calendar year. Similarly Seattle comes home for a stretch starting Dec 3 until New Years where they play 9 of 13 at home with one 2 game road trip to California and single games to Vancouver and Calgary bookending the Christmas break.

Throughout the entire schedule there's a lot of overlap of Canucks and Kraken being at home at roughly the same time and away at roughly the same time. You can almost bet that if some special event made either Rogers Arena or Key Arena unavailable for say 10 days both the Canucks and Kraken would get scheduled for road trips.
That's true --the nuts and bolts of making an NHL schedule require the 2 geographically close teams to be in sync for visiting teams travel schedules (similar to the Flames and the Oilers).

Dr Henry has a hardline, no compromise, reputation with the NHL going back to the 2020 bubble proposals. That gave the Canucks a good reason to agree to delay the home opener as long as possible. If Rogers Arena was located in Fort St John, there's no way there would be full capacity on the 26th (even Abbotsford will continue with capacity restrictions for the time being.)
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