Moore is a much more polished route-runner and receiver than Sinkfield but he lacks game-breaking speed of Rainey and Sinkfield. Moore's injury history has limited his market value since Winnipeg lured him away from the Lions in 2014 for a reported $185,000 a year.CardiacKid wrote:My initial thought with Moore coming back was his signing may have been influenced to a greater degree by Wally's attitude towards Sinkfield and not so much Burnham going elsewhere. Maybe he can afford Moore and Burnham but not Sinkfield and Burnham? Myself, I preferred what Moore brought last year in comparison to Sinkfield; Sinkfield just seemed disconnected with Jennings waaay too often.
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TSN is reporting that Steward has re-signed. Strange though as the article when I just read it indicates it was posted 9 hours ago. Haven't seen any indication elsewhere.CardiacKid wrote:And I certainly hope Steward is back...the wife and I splurged on both his home and away jerseys at the locker-room sale.
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That's good news if true.
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The article is still posted on TSN, no word yet from the official CFL site yet, but Steward was a huge piece, and in my opinion the best lineman on a pretty good line last year.
Hopefully we can still get a deal done with Burnham, but Moore is a pretty signing too, even if he plays in Sinkfield's spot.
I like what Turner brings, however I believe that this signing pretty much ensures that Brooks will not be back this year as they are both best playing the 3 tech position. That being said I really hope we target Nevis from Hamilton in free agengy as he is a big nose tackle type that we desperately need.
Hopefully we can still get a deal done with Burnham, but Moore is a pretty signing too, even if he plays in Sinkfield's spot.
I like what Turner brings, however I believe that this signing pretty much ensures that Brooks will not be back this year as they are both best playing the 3 tech position. That being said I really hope we target Nevis from Hamilton in free agengy as he is a big nose tackle type that we desperately need.
Farhan's twitter account indicates that the Steward signing is for 1 year so that he can the NFL again next year.Lionsfan65 wrote:The article is still posted on TSN, no word yet from the official CFL site yet, but Steward was a huge piece, and in my opinion the best lineman on a pretty good line last year.
Hopefully we can still get a deal done with Burnham, but Moore is a pretty signing too, even if he plays in Sinkfield's spot.
I like what Turner brings, however I believe that this signing pretty much ensures that Brooks will not be back this year as they are both best playing the 3 tech position. That being said I really hope we target Nevis from Hamilton in free agengy as he is a big nose tackle type that we desperately need.
Regarding Turner, Wally mentioned that part of his effectiveness last year was a result of his willingness to play in a back-up, supporting role. I don't expect that he will be in a full-time starting role. We still need Brooks or someone else.
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I really liked Waters a couple of years ago when he was with Toronto, if I can recall he did all three kicking duties reasonably well.
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With this recent spate of signings, I wonder if there will be a few more releases/departures (besides the recent reportage of Allen and Westermann not being tendered offers) in order to facilitate the signing of Burnham?!?!
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Quote pulled from TSN.CA....Lionsfan65 wrote:I really liked Waters a couple of years ago when he was with Toronto, if I can recall he did all three kicking duties reasonably well.
"In 2014, he earned the CFL’s Most Outstanding Special Teams Player nod after leading the league in kicking points (192), field goals (47) as well as punting average (47.7 yards). No player had previously accomplished that feat since the Lions’ own Lui Passaglia’s did so in 1983. Waters was also good on 90.4 per cent of his field goal attempts that year."
I didn't know Lui was the last guy to achieve that particular feat....
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=27810&start=90maxlion wrote:Great news. Should be a significant upgrade on Leone (but you never know with kickers!).Spud387 wrote:Kicking duties appear to be in good handsThe #BCLions have signed placekicker and punter Swayze Waters for the 2017 season.
This game day thread from 2014 showed how valuable Waters was to the Argos vs the Lions. PM had a bad game and he was completely outclassed.
The Swayze Waters I saw in that game was the class of the league. Time will tell if he can regain that form (after a long injury rehab, and crashing out in his NFL stint last pre-season).
I suspect Wally is taking a bit of a flyer on this, and that's why he's still available.
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Steward. Waters. Good news. 
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It looks like the door is open for Brooks to return to B.C. If that's the case, the Lions may not have any big holes to fill in free agency.Qman wrote:lots of signings ... i hope we have money to spend on February 14thWestCoastJoe wrote:Steward. Waters. Good news.
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Let's go through by position and assess:
Quarterback - we're set here. I am salivating at the prospect of Jennings playing in his 2nd full year now that he can properly read defenses. One of the best pure passers in football. Learning when to take chances and when to throw the ball out of bounds. That's going to come. Lulay a solid back-up and QB mentor. Will watch with interest the development of Alex Ross. Lots of tools in his toolbox.
Running Back - we're almost set here. Johnson and Lumbala. We need a platoon back for Johnson (or back-up) if Anthony Allen is not coming back, and I am not sure why we're not bringing him back - unless he believes he deserves a full-time RB position somewhere. Maybe Wally is coming around to the idea that Chris Rainey is the 1-2 punch as a running back/slot hybrid and will dial back his returns?
Receivers - Burnham is the lynch-pin here. If we can lock him up, I'd say we're almost set. Manny and Nick Moore round out the International receivers. Not sure what's going to happen to Sinkfield but I would love to see him with a training camp under his belt. We've signed several import receivers, two of whom are Manny's size. Nationals need to step up. Gore is getting up there and has a lot of mileage on the odometer. Marco has peaked but I like his return abilities. Adekolu deserves more game action. Can Blaszko and Johnson step up?
O-line - looks like everything is intact from last season. I want to see Vaillancourt step into the left guard spot and Hunter move to tackle. I don't want to hear any more of this BS about no Nationals to back him up. Deal with the ratio if/when injury occurs.
D-line - thinner than a Graham cracker here with Bazzie gone and Brooks and Westerman looking for better deals. Looks like Wally is okay with Westerman testing FA waters and perhaps re-signing here if he doesn't get a better deal elsewhere. If camp were to start tomorrow, it would be Roh, Turner, Menard (Forde), and one of Hudson or Allen. No depth to speak of. Yikes. Uko no longer on the roster. Look for Wally to actively pursue a CFL FA or two.
Linebacker - Signing Solly was huge. We're going to miss Bighill's production (and leadership), no question, but I am actually more choked about losing Lokombo due to nationality and potential. Hopefully Cam Ontko and Dyshawn Davis can step up. Purifoy should be even stronger this year at nickel. Look for the club to draft a National linebacker in the early rounds.
Secondary - this is the position group that concerns me most at this point (behind defensive line). Yell, Lee not signed and coming off major surgery. Departure of Gaitor. Phillips a strong possibility for reduced role or retirement, Stewart injured and not coming back. On the plus side, Clarke is locked up and is a lock-down halfback. Fenner is back. Parker perhaps ready to start at field corner? Is Thompson ready to challenge Edem at safety, or will he back up Parker on the corner?
K/P - Swayze Waters was an important signing. Can do all 3 kicking duties really well. Need to draft a National though.
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Quarterback - we're set here. I am salivating at the prospect of Jennings playing in his 2nd full year now that he can properly read defenses. One of the best pure passers in football. Learning when to take chances and when to throw the ball out of bounds. That's going to come. Lulay a solid back-up and QB mentor. Will watch with interest the development of Alex Ross. Lots of tools in his toolbox.
Running Back - we're almost set here. Johnson and Lumbala. We need a platoon back for Johnson (or back-up) if Anthony Allen is not coming back, and I am not sure why we're not bringing him back - unless he believes he deserves a full-time RB position somewhere. Maybe Wally is coming around to the idea that Chris Rainey is the 1-2 punch as a running back/slot hybrid and will dial back his returns?
Receivers - Burnham is the lynch-pin here. If we can lock him up, I'd say we're almost set. Manny and Nick Moore round out the International receivers. Not sure what's going to happen to Sinkfield but I would love to see him with a training camp under his belt. We've signed several import receivers, two of whom are Manny's size. Nationals need to step up. Gore is getting up there and has a lot of mileage on the odometer. Marco has peaked but I like his return abilities. Adekolu deserves more game action. Can Blaszko and Johnson step up?
O-line - looks like everything is intact from last season. I want to see Vaillancourt step into the left guard spot and Hunter move to tackle. I don't want to hear any more of this BS about no Nationals to back him up. Deal with the ratio if/when injury occurs.
D-line - thinner than a Graham cracker here with Bazzie gone and Brooks and Westerman looking for better deals. Looks like Wally is okay with Westerman testing FA waters and perhaps re-signing here if he doesn't get a better deal elsewhere. If camp were to start tomorrow, it would be Roh, Turner, Menard (Forde), and one of Hudson or Allen. No depth to speak of. Yikes. Uko no longer on the roster. Look for Wally to actively pursue a CFL FA or two.
Linebacker - Signing Solly was huge. We're going to miss Bighill's production (and leadership), no question, but I am actually more choked about losing Lokombo due to nationality and potential. Hopefully Cam Ontko and Dyshawn Davis can step up. Purifoy should be even stronger this year at nickel. Look for the club to draft a National linebacker in the early rounds.
Secondary - this is the position group that concerns me most at this point (behind defensive line). Yell, Lee not signed and coming off major surgery. Departure of Gaitor. Phillips a strong possibility for reduced role or retirement, Stewart injured and not coming back. On the plus side, Clarke is locked up and is a lock-down halfback. Fenner is back. Parker perhaps ready to start at field corner? Is Thompson ready to challenge Edem at safety, or will he back up Parker on the corner?
K/P - Swayze Waters was an important signing. Can do all 3 kicking duties really well. Need to draft a National though.
DH
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