Breaking News... Printers cut!

[The_Pauser]

Ah, duh, Pauser, that's what pennw is saying. Is stats and numbers all you got to backup your reason why Casey is our best QB this season? WHO CARES??? At this point of the season don't we just wanna WIN? Does it matter if Lulay puts up 4/20 for 125 yards for a WIN? It's a WIN for goodness sakes! But I guess according to you Casey putting up 20/20 for 500 yards for a LOSS is so much more admirable. "Numbers versus WINS". "6 yrs experience and not getting the job done versus 2 yrs experience and getting the job done." Since you like numbers so much, why don't you do the math? Oooops, sorry. Guess you can't. Casey's no longer here to do the math!

Well I'm a season ticket holder so I attend every home game. I also watch every road game on TV and from what I've witnessed, Casey Printers has been by far our best quarterback this season. Jarious only had 1 start so it's not really fair to include him in this discussion, but he looked horrendous. Lulay received the other starts and he hasn't looked that strong at all. And yes, the stats back me up on this.

I'm talking about which QB gives us the best opportunity to win. A QB who throws 4/20 for 125 yards (that's an amzing yards per completion ratio btw) does not give us a better chance to win than a QB who goes 20/20 for 500 yards. Both scenarios indicate that other areas of our team are having a more significant factor in determining the outcome of the game.

But I digress. Here's a stat for you that I've repeated over and over yet you seem to enjoy ignoring. In games that Casey Printers has been the starting QB for us this year, we have a record of 4-4. In games where Travis Lulay or Jarious Jackson was the starting QB for us this year, we're 1-5. So if you want to ignore everything completely and just look at wins and losses, Casey was still by far our top QB.

[Blitz]

If the dressing room is this inner sanctum you speak of; how do you possibly know that Dickenson went to Wally and demanded to play? You know this? Are you privvy to this inner sanctum?

As for "the code" and Wally breaking it; it's his to break. He is the boss. He sets the rules.A lot of people here don't like that, West Coast Joe, Blitz, The Lion King at al, but like it or not it's his team to handle how he wants. If they do well so be it, if they don't he'll have to deal with the fallout.

It is our to team to cheer for and being a fan we always know what's best for the team. Don't we.

Perhaps Csey leaving leaving will put an end to the "back in 2004" posts. Its over, he's gone and never to return. So we need to ask ourselves do we still want to cheer for the Lions regardless? I know I do.Whether the glass is half full or half empty, it's time to order another one.
Lion Guy
Legend


Dickenson going to Wally is not the dressing room inner sanctum. Yes, I know he did. You don't have to believe it though and likely don't. I'll respect that. I can't discuss it further.

Yes, Wally is the boss but as a leader you are not immune from the standards you set for others. I believe, in that position you have to set the standard for yourself at the highest level. You set the example, with your work ethic and also with your own behavior. It's hypocritical not to do that. . As a boss, you have formal authority to hire and fire or say whatever you want. However, as a leader, as well as being a boss, your own behavior should be one that is admired by players.

However, you're right Lion Guy. Printers is gone, forever, and it will soon be time to move on. There is no question that Casey Printers was a football player who created stong views. Most went to games to watch him succeed and hope to see his magic and some even went to watch him fail but he certainly had the ability to have people focus on the B.C. Lions when he was here. Printers has been the most discussed player on the B.C. Lions on Lionbackers by a wide margin over the years.

Many need to express their views...upset, relieved, whatever, and then it will be time to support Lulay or Jackson or whomever is the starter. is for sure. Chap will be happy that Printers is gone, as he was the first time. However, it's going to take more than just great defense and special teams to turn this franchise into a dominent team again. Playing offence to avoid mistakes only takes you so far.

[Lion Guy]

If the dressing room is this inner sanctum you speak of; how do you possibly know that Dickenson went to Wally and demanded to play? You know this? Are you privvy to this inner sanctum?

As for "the code" and Wally breaking it; it's his to break. He is the boss. He sets the rules.A lot of people here don't like that, West Coast Joe, Blitz, The Lion King at al, but like it or not it's his team to handle how he wants. If they do well so be it, if they don't he'll have to deal with the fallout.

It is our to team to cheer for and being a fan we always know what's best for the team. Don't we.

Perhaps Csey leaving leaving will put an end to the "back in 2004" posts. Its over, he's gone and never to return. So we need to ask ourselves do we still want to cheer for the Lions regardless? I know I do.Whether the glass is half full or half empty, it's time to order another one.
Lion Guy
Legend


Dickenson going to Wally is not the dressing room inner sanctum. Yes, I know he did. You don't have to believe it though and likely don't. I'll respect that. I can't discuss it further.

Yes, Wally is the boss but as a leader you are not immune from the standards you set for others. I believe, in that position you have to set the standard for yourself at the highest level. You set the example, with your work ethic and also with your own behavior. It's hypocritical not to do that. . As a boss, you have formal authority to hire and fire or say whatever you want. However, as a leader, as well as being a boss, your own behavior should be one that is admired by players.
However, you're right Lion Guy. Printers is gone, forever, and it will soon be time to move on. There is no question that Casey Printers was a football player who created stong views. Most went to games to watch him succeed and hope to see his magic and some even went to watch him fail but he certainly had the ability to have people focus on the B.C. Lions when he was here. Printers has been the most discussed player on the B.C. Lions on Lionbackers by a wide margin over the years.

Many need to express their views...upset, relieved, whatever, and then it will be time to support Lulay or Jackson or whomever is the starter. is for sure. Chap will be happy that Printers is gone, as he was the first time. However, it's going to take more than just great defense and special teams to turn this franchise into a dominent team again. Playing offence to avoid mistakes only takes you so far.

And that's exactly what Wally "the leader" has done. For the good of the team he ate some crow and corrected the error he made last year and rid the team of the cancer that he helped foster.

[The_Pauser]

Wow, I just took time and read all the posts on the recent move ( Casey Printers ) in the Lions den. Other than the Pauser and a few others, I did not realize there were so many easily diverted Lions fans. Anyone who believes that Printers was the issue should actually start watching some BC Lions football games!!!! He was simply a SCAPEGOAT for the Lions. The only player that has actually been able to stay upright and not scramble for his life has been Geroy. Good job, 100% passer rating. Yeah it was Casey's fault the Leos blew another lead going into the final quarter. I would like to congratulate Buono. He has gotten virtually everyone in this province to talk about this ( Printers release ) move, rather than his undisciplined, out of sync football team.

THANK YOU! I believe you, Blitz, LFITQ, and a couple others have really brought this thing down to earth and put some good perspective on things.

We can get rid of Casey Printers, we can get rid of Geroy Simon, we can get rid of Khalif Mitchell or anyone else you want. We can replace the entire fricken team. We can bring in the entire Indianapolis Colts team. We still will not be addressing the key problem areas that this team has. This is a very sick team that will not get better with a couple player moves here or there. This teams problems stem from a serious leadership problem from the top down, serious scheming and coaching techniques, hidden personal agendas, and an overal unsuccessful view of the way football should be run.

If you look at this team now and compare it to the Calgary Stampeders when Buono left, the only difference is we don't have an owner who insists his son become the starting quarterback. That team was in turmoil, just like this one. Wally didn't start to re-achieve success again until he had a management team consisting of Bob Ackles and Bob O'Billovich. Even having Dave Ritchie on his coaching staff was a huge asset. All three are no longer part of the team (for different reasons, RIP Bob), and ever since their departures the team has taken a sharp turn for the worse. Wally's still here, and the rest of his coaching staff more or less has remained consistant. Last years team was bad, and one would expect that Wally would have addressed those issues in the offseason. He failed. I'm putting the blame for our bad seasons on Wally's ineffective ability to run a football team at this stage of his career. Don't get me wrong, his resume is very impressive and he's the best coach in CFL history. But the game has simply passed him by, he hasn't surrounded himself with the best front office and management personnel possible, and thus he's no longer playing the best players on the field as he possibly can.

I remember, back when Wally first started in BC as a head coach, hearing that on any given play the players who are out on the field are on the field because Wally believes they are the best players for that job. Wally only cared about talent and who gave him the best opportunity for success. A prime example of how far away he's gotten from what made him a great coach can be seen even this season. Wally even admitted that Yonus Davis was the best player for the job of kick returner, but still elected to keep Robert Jordan because of his position. Wally went away from what made him successful, and this isn't the only example that you can point to for that.

Sorry for getting a bit sidetracked, but I fully believe that Casey Printers is just the victim of a horrendous mess of an organization that couldn't provide him (and others) the best opportunitiy to be successful. And for that, I wouldn't blame Printers at all...I blame Wally Buono.

[Blitz]

Ah, duh, Pauser, that's what pennw is saying. Is stats and numbers all you got to backup your reason why Casey is our best QB this season? WHO CARES??? At this point of the season don't we just wanna WIN? Does it matter if Lulay puts up 4/20 for 125 yards for a WIN? It's a WIN for goodness sakes! But I guess according to you Casey putting up 20/20 for 500 yards for a LOSS is so much more admirable. "Numbers versus WINS". "6 yrs experience and not getting the job done versus 2 yrs experience and getting the job done." Since you like numbers so much, why don't you do the math? Oooops, sorry. Guess you can't. Casey's no longer here to do the math!

Well I'm a season ticket holder so I attend every home game. I also watch every road game on TV and from what I've witnessed, Casey Printers has been by far our best quarterback this season. Jarious only had 1 start so it's not really fair to include him in this discussion, but he looked horrendous. Lulay received the other starts and he hasn't looked that strong at all. And yes, the stats back me up on this.

I'm talking about which QB gives us the best opportunity to win. A QB who throws 4/20 for 125 yards (that's an amzing yards per completion ratio btw) does not give us a better chance to win than a QB who goes 20/20 for 500 yards. Both scenarios indicate that other areas of our team are having a more significant factor in determining the outcome of the game.!

But I digress.

Here's a stat for you that I've repeated over and over yet you seem to enjoy ignoring. In games that Casey Printers has been the starting QB for us this year, we have a record of 4-4. In games where Travis Lulay or Jarious Jackson was the starting QB for us this year, we're 1-5. So if you want to ignore everything completely and just look at wins and losses, Casey was still by far our top QB.[/quote] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I really believe how you handle an individual athlete as a coach plays a major role in his success or failure. Wally knew Casey Printers personality well. He knows he's an emotional quarterback, that his confidence is far more fragile than the brash, hot dog, outside persona he created for himself. That's all show.

Wally gave Printers a contract that paid him to start this season and he named Printers as his starter. He also knew that Printers would not deal well with being benched for any extended period of time. Wally shattered his confidence, when he benched Printers for 3 games and handed the reins over to a second year pro who had badly struggled and who continued to struggle. Printers was our best quarterback at the time of his fumblitis. He could have sat him down for a short period of time or stuck with him in the second game, when he fumbled twice in the first half. We had a 9-0 lead. Many coaches would have stuck with their starter. Instead Wally punished Printers or got so frustrated with him, that he decided to go with Lulay. At that point, it was over. What happened in Winnipeg was unfortunate but this was not going to be a happy ending for Printers. His sideline incident just hurried the process of Printers being released in the off-season.

The fact is, even though we were more successful as a football team with Printers at quarterback than Lulay, Printers is not a good fit with Chapdelaine and his offensive philosophy. It's a round peg in a square hole. Personality wise, the two are complete opposites as well. Printers tried to do it Chap's way but you could see, while Printers said all the right things and he tried, knee injury and all, it was a struggle for Printers.

Lulay will get better. However, we had the best pocket passer in the CFL in Dickenson, and he couldn't engineer playoff wins with Chap's offence, other than 2006, when we beat a Rider team in disarray and a weak Montreal team in the Grey Cup. Lulay has his work cut out for him.

[Stargazer_Girl]

On Bltz's post on emotional intelligence in the thread formally known as "The Code"...

Good post. However, I’m not sure if they all lack emotional intelligence, or if they just aren’t motivated to apply it at this point.

Managing how much you reveal disdain for your coworkers has a lot to do with face management – not only presenting a positive face yourself, but preserving that of members of your social group. Both strategies are probably motivated by the benefits you stand to gain from doing so – your coworker reciprocates the favour, you’re seen as a team player, etc. When people start not caring how they present to others, or not caring about throwing their coworkers under a bus, it often means senior management is either very abdicative or autocratic and power/authority has become decentralized. Cue the "have we ever been the same since Bobby Ackles died" question. Who knows if that’s the case with the Lions, and if it is at what level of management, but clearly it’s no longer beneficial for some of these players, including the veterans who know better, to bother saving face and maintaining a sense of camaraderie. 

Some of the players have stated in the media that the team is lacking leadership among the players themselves. The fact that they’ve struggled to do so at the “front-line” makes me wonder who’s managing them from above. A skillful manager knows how to dispense rewards in a way that shapes the behavior they want from their troops. These guys are so young, some of them fresh out of college. I’m not sure it’s reasonable for them to establish an effective leadership structure on their own without a lot of guidance. Yes, the veterans should step in, but like any other human being, they need a reason to that appeals to their own self-interest, because altruism in and of itself is a pretty weak motivator. 

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Some of the players have stated in the media that the team is lacking leadership among the players themselves. The fact that they’ve struggled to do so at the “front-line” makes me wonder who’s managing them from above. A skillful manager knows how to dispense rewards in a way that shapes the behavior they want from their troops. These guys are so young, some of them fresh out of college. I’m not sure it’s reasonable for them to establish an effective leadership structure on their own without a lot of guidance. Yes, the veterans should step in, but like any other human being, they need a reason to that appeals to their own self-interest, because altruism in and of itself is a pretty weak motivator. 

You make some good points however you can't discount that although rookies, most of these players have been playing football for many many years and as such are used to the leadership roles that develop on a football team and are used to adapting to them as they moved from Pop Warner to College, or eight year olds to college . In situations such as football teams leadership is often tied to a postion, probably the most common one being that of the QB, particularly for the offence. If the person in this revered position is struggling, the result is often for factions to form that either support him, or an alternate that is trying to unseat him. I think that's pretty much what happened here. As for rewards for leadership, I don't think that comes so much from the so called management, but rather from the status amongst ones peers. In the military a common saying is that when it comes to the crunch soldiers don't sacrifice their lives for their politicians, country or any other heirarchy, but for their fellow soldier. Many people crave a leadership role while others are reluctant to assume it because it often requires sacraficing self interest, for team interest. To most people playing team sports, I think the desire to contribute more at the expense of some personal gratification is second nature. I don't see lack of desire to be a leader as a problem, more likely too much desire by too many.

[The_Pauser]

The fact is, even though we were more successful as a football team with Printers at quarterback than Lulay, Printers is not a good fit with Chapdelaine and his offensive philosophy. It's a round peg in a square hole. Personality wise, the two are complete opposites as well. Printers tried to do it Chap's way but you could see, while Printers said all the right things and he tried, knee injury and all, it was a struggle for Printers.

I'm pretty sure I know what your response will be, but I'll still ask the question anyways because it could spark another interesting debate:

Is it the coaches job to tailor their gameplan to the strengths of a player and not trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, but trying to create that square hole for that square peg? Or is it better to just get rid of all of your players who don't fit your co-ordinators philosophies and try to hope you can find players who do?

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The fact is, even though we were more successful as a football team with Printers at quarterback than Lulay, Printers is not a good fit with Chapdelaine and his offensive philosophy. It's a round peg in a square hole. Personality wise, the two are complete opposites as well. Printers tried to do it Chap's way but you could see, while Printers said all the right things and he tried, knee injury and all, it was a struggle for Printers.

I'm pretty sure I know what your response will be, but I'll still ask the question anyways because it could spark another interesting debate:

Is it the coaches job to tailor their gameplan to the strengths of a player and not trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, but trying to create that square hole for that square peg? Or is it better to just get rid of all of your players who don't fit your co-ordinators philosophies and try to hope you can find players who do?

To a single player, i'd say no. To the majority of your players I say yes.

[LFITQ]

I just have no idea how people can say Casey was NOT our best QB. The stats prove otherwise. If you say Casey couldn't get the job done, well what have Lulay or Jackson done this season to prove that they could get the job done? In Jackson's case, what has he done in the past 2 or 3 seasons to suggest he can get the job done? I don't see what these guys have done to prove that they're any better than Casey...

You poor, tortured soul. What's going to happen for the rest of this season? Does your desire for the Lions to succeed supersede your hope that Travis and Jarious fall flat on their face just to validate your point?

Maybe you're wishing the Lions win each game 7-0 on an interception return for a TD, a Jamal Robertson touchdown run, or that Yonus Davis takes one to the house?

DH

Just winning for a change would be nice ... I don't care how they do it.

[Blitz]

The fact is, even though we were more successful as a football team with Printers at quarterback than Lulay, Printers is not a good fit with Chapdelaine and his offensive philosophy. It's a round peg in a square hole. Personality wise, the two are complete opposites as well. Printers tried to do it Chap's way but you could see, while Printers said all the right things and he tried, knee injury and all, it was a struggle for Printers.

I'm pretty sure I know what your response will be, but I'll still ask the question anyways because it could spark another interesting debate:

Is it the coaches job to tailor their gameplan to the strengths of a player and not trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, but trying to create that square hole for that square peg? Or is it better to just get rid of all of your players who don't fit your co-ordinators philosophies and try to hope you can find players who do?

To a single player, i'd say no. To the majority of your players I say yes.

I'd say a lot depends on the position. On offence, especially at the quarterback position, you want to get the most talented guy you can. Schemes can be adjusted around him fairly easily with the will to do so.. If you have a star receiver, you also want to adjust your scheme. For example you want to try to get him single coverage, through motion, scheme etc. as often as possible. You also want to adjust your offence to ensure your next primary receiver can get single coverage and be the second read often, when your star reciever is doubled.

You also want to get the best running back you can get, talent wise. If he's a speedster and a shake and baker, then you adjust your schemes for cut back plays, for plays to break to the outside, and to use him in the passing game. If he's a power runner then you adjust your plays and blocking to accomodate that.

On defense, its a little harder, but if you really have a stud linebackerr who can really scrape well, you want to adjust your defensive line scheme to keep blockers off him. If you have a star pass rusher, like when we had Cameron Wake, and they are using a back to chip and double team him, you can blitz from the side of your star defensive end to take away the double team.

Most teams today, in almost every pro sport, lean towards getting the best athlete possible, no matter what position, and adjusting their scheme to accommodate. They draft that way most of the time. You just don't want to give another team a more talented player although position needs have to be considered.

All football teams have favorite plays of coaches. They may even have an offensive philosophy, from the spread to a more West Coast philosophy etc. but every offensive philosophy can be adjusted to accommodate a certain style of player. Very few pro football teams, north and south of the border just use the plug and play philosophy of Chapdelaine. Basically, you have to have a pocket passing style of quarterbacking to even hope to plug into his offence.

In terms of game plans, you can select certain plays to adjust to a different style of quarterback, based upon a starter being injured.

[truth-hurts]

Ah, duh, Pauser, that's what pennw is saying. Is stats and numbers all you got to backup your reason why Casey is our best QB this season? WHO CARES??? At this point of the season don't we just wanna WIN? Does it matter if Lulay puts up 4/20 for 125 yards for a WIN? It's a WIN for goodness sakes! But I guess according to you Casey putting up 20/20 for 500 yards for a LOSS is so much more admirable. "Numbers versus WINS". "6 yrs experience and not getting the job done versus 2 yrs experience and getting the job done." Since you like numbers so much, why don't you do the math? Oooops, sorry. Guess you can't. Casey's no longer here to do the math!

Well I'm a season ticket holder so I attend every home game. I also watch every road game on TV and from what I've witnessed, Casey Printers has been by far our best quarterback this season. Jarious only had 1 start so it's not really fair to include him in this discussion, but he looked horrendous. Lulay received the other starts and he hasn't looked that strong at all. And yes, the stats back me up on this.

I'm talking about which QB gives us the best opportunity to win. A QB who throws 4/20 for 125 yards (that's an amzing yards per completion ratio btw) does not give us a better chance to win than a QB who goes 20/20 for 500 yards. Both scenarios indicate that other areas of our team are having a more significant factor in determining the outcome of the game.

But I digress. Here's a stat for you that I've repeated over and over yet you seem to enjoy ignoring. In games that Casey Printers has been the starting QB for us this year, we have a record of 4-4. In games where Travis Lulay or Jarious Jackson was the starting QB for us this year, we're 1-5. So if you want to ignore everything completely and just look at wins and losses, Casey was still by far our top QB.

There you go again with your stats and numbers! You really just don't get it, do ya? You think Casey was the only QB that could give us the best opportunity to WIN? While bringing up a valid point that his numbers are much better than Lulay's and Jarious', you fail to see that in order to win games you have to have your team rallying behind you.

Yes, Casey's record of 4/4 was great but let's not forget that was in the beginning of the season. As the season progressed his record was next to nil and he wasn't even playing. It was quite evident that in Winnipeg his team couldn't care less looking like foolish, unprofessional athletes once he stepped on the field. If I remember correctly we were up by 21 points with Lulay as the QB before crash and burning when Casey came in to relieve him. So, let me say it again, it really doesn't matter how great Casey's numbers were, your so-called-better-than-the-other-two QB was given THE OPPORTUNITY in Winnipeg and his team and coaches seemed to fall apart from the lack of synergy. At this point of the season big numbers and stats from Casey wouldn't have changed anything since the team was already showing a downward spiral.

[Rammer]

Ah, duh, Pauser, that's what pennw is saying. Is stats and numbers all you got to backup your reason why Casey is our best QB this season? WHO CARES??? At this point of the season don't we just wanna WIN? Does it matter if Lulay puts up 4/20 for 125 yards for a WIN? It's a WIN for goodness sakes! But I guess according to you Casey putting up 20/20 for 500 yards for a LOSS is so much more admirable. "Numbers versus WINS". "6 yrs experience and not getting the job done versus 2 yrs experience and getting the job done." Since you like numbers so much, why don't you do the math? Oooops, sorry. Guess you can't. Casey's no longer here to do the math!

Well I'm a season ticket holder so I attend every home game. I also watch every road game on TV and from what I've witnessed, Casey Printers has been by far our best quarterback this season. Jarious only had 1 start so it's not really fair to include him in this discussion, but he looked horrendous. Lulay received the other starts and he hasn't looked that strong at all. And yes, the stats back me up on this.

I'm talking about which QB gives us the best opportunity to win. A QB who throws 4/20 for 125 yards (that's an amzing yards per completion ratio btw) does not give us a better chance to win than a QB who goes 20/20 for 500 yards. Both scenarios indicate that other areas of our team are having a more significant factor in determining the outcome of the game.

But I digress. Here's a stat for you that I've repeated over and over yet you seem to enjoy ignoring. In games that Casey Printers has been the starting QB for us this year, we have a record of 4-4. In games where Travis Lulay or Jarious Jackson was the starting QB for us this year, we're 1-5. So if you want to ignore everything completely and just look at wins and losses, Casey was still by far our top QB.

There you go again with your stats and numbers! You really just don't get it, do ya? You think Casey was the only QB that could give us the best opportunity to WIN? While bringing up a valid point that his numbers are much better than Lulay's and Jarious', you fail to see that in order to win games you have to have your team rallying behind you.

Yes, Casey's record of 4/4 was great but let's not forget that was in the beginning of the season. As the season progressed his record was next to nil and he wasn't even playing. It was quite evident that in Winnipeg his team couldn't care less looking like foolish, unprofessional athletes once he stepped on the field. If I remember correctly we were up by 21 points with Lulay as the QB before crash and burning when Casey came in to relieve him. So, let me say it again, it really doesn't matter how great Casey's numbers were, your so-called-better-than-the-other-two QB was given THE OPPORTUNITY in Winnipeg and his team and coaches seemed to fall apart from the lack of synergy. At this point of the season big numbers and stats from Casey wouldn't have changed anything since the team was already showing a downward spiral.

The problem that the Lions have is that their current starting QB no matter who steps in will have comparable QB numbers to Lemon. In all honesty, the Argos maxed out that in the first half of the season, the wins are going to be fewer and farther between now. Football is a game that is driven by the QB, CFL football even moreso, so until you have a QB that can operate in the upper echelon of QB's in the league, your football team will struggle, regardless of ST or D.

[pennw]

Very good point truth-hurts . The team fell apart after Printers stepped onto the field . Did Printers have something to do with that ? Absolutely he did . That is the impact he now had on the team . No he did not make all those mistakes personally , but with what Angus Reid has revealed about the behind the scenes ( and I think he is a better source of behind scenes info than a certain know-it-all who is 'privy' to all behind the scenes stuff on this board ) it all makes much more sense of the collapse . Much of the team has no confidence in Printers anymore . When he started panicking once again , the team lost confidence . Because they had no leader .
Many here are slagging Angus Reid for telling the truth , as though he's betraying a former teammate . But really what he has said , needed to be said for the fans to understand the situation . I would think many of the players would have wanted their fans to know a bit about what was going on , and Reid just happened to be the spokesman . It was a very unusual situation and somewhat extreme thing that happened , and there needed to be some explaining in order to not lose the fans . Some here , because of personal bias , are having a hard time accepting the reality . The truth is Printers and the team had come unglued , he lost the team and according to some media reports , with some players he never had their respect in the first place . He had to be a leader and he wasn't able to do that .
Had Reid not said anything we would all be wondering what is going on . Keeping the fans in the dark about such a drastic move would not have been beneficial .I think some of those not liking Reid talking , just don't like the fact that he's killing their argument .
One thing the stats don't show , that some here are ignoring is the fact that Printers keeps panicking when the heat is on , Lulay doesn't . This is what makes Lulay a much better QB already who will improve with more game time . Printers was in steady decline . There was no way he was getting any better . There was no future with Printers , it was inevitable that he wasn't going to make the team in the long run , so why delay the inevitable ?

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Blitz ,I agree you can build an offence and or defence on a teams strength and in most cases you should. I'm not as certain if it can be, or should be on a single player. Single player get hurt (Buck,Dave) and then what have you got? I also think you can have a great QB who can throw the ball a mile but you need that receiver who has blinding speed to really take advantage of it (Jarious).

If you are thinking about bringing in talent that could optimize a key players strength I would agree, but thats not really a case of a single player anymore. I based my answer on trying for example, to make a team that isn't well suited for the long bomb, but tries to play that game because the QB has great arm strength. Usually you end up with a beautifully thrown ball, bouncing 10 yards downfield from the nearest receiver, because they don't have the speed to run under it.