8-10, 467 points for.
If the running game returns, and the pocket moves, 10-8, but that won't happen.
"Guess The Lions' Win-Loss Record" Contest
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I would disagree. It's on both teams to convert (or fail to convert) their 2pt attempts. I'd have to believe an even exchange, whether it's six or eight — and a sustained tie — is equally as likely as the combined chances of 8-6 or 6-8 outcomes to determine a winner.Whisperin' Jimmy wrote:...a tie is even more improbable this year with the 'must-go-for-two' rule.
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Re: "Guess The Lions' Win-Loss Record" Contest
My prediction:
Lions will finish with a record of 10-8.
They will score 471 points.
Thanks
Lions will finish with a record of 10-8.
They will score 471 points.
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Re: "Guess The Lions' Win-Loss Record" Contest
not playing to win anything, but I predict that printers only wins 6 games at most. It will take Lulay starting and\or playing more than printers to win any more.
so, assuming that printers starts all 18, I guess 6-12
so, assuming that printers starts all 18, I guess 6-12
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8-10
509 points
509 points
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Hmmmm.... I thought the whole point of the rule change was to make a result more likely. Let us presume the percentage of missed 2-point conversions is 50% (a figure which I just this very moment made up). The percentage of missed converts is, conservatively, 0%. So it seems to me this has to make an even exchange less likely.sj-roc wrote:I would disagree. It's on both teams to convert (or fail to convert) their 2pt attempts. I'd have to believe an even exchange, whether it's six or eight — and a sustained tie — is equally as likely as the combined chances of 8-6 or 6-8 outcomes to determine a winner.Whisperin' Jimmy wrote:...a tie is even more improbable this year with the 'must-go-for-two' rule.
Anyway, I like to bet the long shots. As Kevin said on The Office, "If anyone gives you 10,000 to 1 odds on anything, you take that bet. If John Mellencamp ever wins an Oscar, I will be one rich dude."
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11-7 472 points for
Empire Field gives us a stronger home field advantage making us tough to beat at home as we put together a 7-2 record in our new confines. Things aren't quite so rosy on the road as we go 4-5.
Empire Field gives us a stronger home field advantage making us tough to beat at home as we put together a 7-2 record in our new confines. Things aren't quite so rosy on the road as we go 4-5.
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If this is the official make a prediction effort:
11-7, I do think we will have a slow start, but I also think Printers makes some positive things happen on the field.
Points for..396
Points allowed...328
11-7, I do think we will have a slow start, but I also think Printers makes some positive things happen on the field.
Points for..396
Points allowed...328
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I have concerns about protecting our QB's so I am going to go with a conservative 9-9 .. with 448 points for
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Re: "Guess The Lions' Win-Loss Record" Contest
I could be wrong, but I look at it this way: suppose we play a betting game whereby I flip a coin twice. If if comes up the same way both times, I win, and if it comes up different each time, you win. Who has the better chance of winning?Whisperin' Jimmy wrote:Hmmmm.... I thought the whole point of the rule change was to make a result more likely. Let us presume the percentage of missed 2-point conversions is 50% (a figure which I just this very moment made up). The percentage of missed converts is, conservatively, 0%. So it seems to me this has to make an even exchange less likely.sj-roc wrote:I would disagree. It's on both teams to convert (or fail to convert) their 2pt attempts. I'd have to believe an even exchange, whether it's six or eight — and a sustained tie — is equally as likely as the combined chances of 8-6 or 6-8 outcomes to determine a winner.Whisperin' Jimmy wrote:...a tie is even more improbable this year with the 'must-go-for-two' rule.
I'm not sure if it matters that the percentage of missed 2pters is higher than for 1, because on average it's the same for both teams. I'm going to think about this some more and post again; you may be right. If the mods want to split this off not to distract from the predictions, that's fine by me.
At any rate, the compulsory 2pt attempt seems to me more for increasing the entertainment value, which are more interesting to watch in itself than the 1pt version.
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9-9, 479 PF
Playoffs are a repeat of last season.
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Playoffs are a repeat of last season.
Don't confuse that with any sort of cynicism over lack of progress versus last season, however.
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9-9
485 PF
485 PF
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Re: "Guess The Lions' Win-Loss Record" Contest
10-8 493 pts......starting slow and getting better for the playoffs as the OL gels 
