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Who do you want to win the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election?

Poll ended at Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:20 am

Hillary Clinton (Democratic / Running mate: Tim Kaine)
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60%
Donald Trump (Republican / Running mate: Mike Pence)
2
40%
 
Total votes: 5
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With the U.S. Presidential Election coming up, no doubt this will affect the Canadian media as well. But first things first as both the Democrats and Republicans still need to choose their Presidential nominees. And I'd say in America the race and debates for the party presidential nomination is just as dramatic as the Presidential election itself. And unlike the cases from 1960 - 2000 in which the sitting Vice President is seeking Presidency and will almost secure the Presidential nomination for his own party (e.g. George H.W. Bush in 1988 for Republicans, Al Gore in 2000 for Democrats), sitting VP is not seeking the Presidency so the Democrats are in a race for their nomination as well between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.

But I'd say the Republican Party presidential race is more exciting with a three way race. Adding a poll for the Republican Party nomination and will change the poll once the final nominees for both parties and their running mates have been finalized.

Who do you want to be the Republican and Democratic Presidential nominees?
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Robbie wrote:With the U.S. Presidential Election coming up, no doubt this will affect the Canadian media as well. But first things first as both the Democrats and Republicans still need to choose their Presidential nominees. And I'd say in America the race and debates for the party presidential nomination is just as dramatic as the Presidential election itself. And unlike the cases from 1960 - 2000 in which the sitting Vice President is seeking Presidency and will almost secure the Presidential nomination for his own party (e.g. George H.W. Bush in 1988 for Republicans, Al Gore in 2000 for Democrats), sitting VP is not seeking the Presidency so the Democrats are in a race for their nomination as well between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.

But I'd say the Republican Party presidential race is more exciting with a three way race. Adding a poll for the Republican Party nomination and will change the poll once the final nominees for both parties and their running mates have been finalized.

Who do you want to be the Republican and Democratic Presidential nominees?
anybody but drumpf


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Can't we have additional credible options like "none of the above" or "Bozo the Clown"? Truth be told, the top 3 all have serious problems from my point of view. Trump may be a more obvious target for criticism but Cruz, whose campaign seems to be number 1 in dirty tricks or Rubio who frankly seems over his head when it comes to the big stage would both present serious liabilities in the top job.

Can you see any of those guys being willing to partner well with our warm, fuzzy PM? I can't. Nor can I see them having the potential to play well with most other nations either and lacking credibility with all. They can't even partner well within their own party. That some citizens are even suggesting that they would rather leave their own country rather than live in it under Trump (even if it is mostly in jest), should say just how depressing this race actually is. Makes for great theatre but the most powerful politician in the world who has the ability to make or break the entire planet with the push of a button isn't really about great theatre. It is about conciliation, mediation, negotiation and all these guys can seem to do is try to prove who has the bigger missile.


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Whatever happened to the old fashioned conservatives like Eisenhower? I personally would hate to see any of these idiots in the White House.


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I would have like to have seen the actor, senator Thompson, in the white house.


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I wonder if Canadians will support Cruz because of affinity and bias because he was born in Canada, specifically Calgary, and for the longest time he had dual Canadian-American citizenship although in May 2014 he renounced his Canadian citizenship. And it looks like because of him, the defined America Natural-born-citizen clause and definition has changed someone as it's possible for an American born outside of America to become President.


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Hey all,

I really don't care what the Americans do, to be honest. My concern is how the election effects Canada. Regardless of which candidate or party wins, the result will be much the same north of the border.

Trump is clearly the most entertaining candidate at the moment and I think he's likely to win the Rep. nomination. But like Arnold Schwarzenegger's run as California governor, I don't think Trump has particularly conservative convictions or a plan to govern once he gets in office. But November is a long way off; we may see him mellow once he's secured the nomination.

As a Canadian Conservative, what concerns me most about a Trump presidency is that Trudeau and the media up here will be running against him for the next four+ years. And that is not good for Tories. ________ (insert new Conservative leader) = Trump will be bad in the next election cycle.

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Donald Drumph has some real estate he wants to sell you. Also steaks, wine, clothing, even his adopted name, Trump. OK, some of those ventures are no more.

Win or lose his campaign, his brand will get huge exposure, for better or worse.


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jcalhoun wrote:Hey all,

I really don't care what the Americans do, to be honest. My concern is how the election effects Canada. Regardless of which candidate or party wins, the result will be much the same north of the border.

Trump is clearly the most entertaining candidate at the moment and I think he's likely to win the Rep. nomination. But like Arnold Schwarzenegger's run as California governor, I don't think Trump has particularly conservative convictions or a plan to govern once he gets in office. But November is a long way off; we may see him mellow once he's secured the nomination.

As a Canadian Conservative, what concerns me most about a Trump presidency is that Trudeau and the media up here will be running against him for the next four+ years. And that is not good for Tories. ________ (insert new Conservative leader) = Trump will be bad in the next election cycle.

Cheers,

James
I'm not sure he will have the gravitas with the voters either if he gets the nomination. He has a big problem with women voters and they have voted more than men in the US since 1996. At the moment, something like 50% of women say they will not vote for trump. What's more, more centrist Republican voters may well choose to hold their noses and vote democrat if Trump continues on his current path. The problem with divisive, fear mongering is that eventually it starts to get stale. The whipped up emotions, the fighting, gets tiring and tiresome and I wouldn't be surprised if Trump's momentum started to fade a little. His losing will at least fill one of his promises by making America great again.

As for us Canadians, I really fear 4 years or (gasp) 8 years of a Republican presidency. Their brand of Conservatism is really several brands and much of it seems pretty extreme. Not going to make for good diplomatic relations between us and a country to whose economy we are intimately tied.


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Very surprising and shocking news that Ted Cruz has just pulled out of the Republican nomination race, especially since he just chose a running mate a few days ago. So much for a Canadian-born U.S. President. It's all but certain that Donald Trump will win the Republican nomination now.

Changing the poll to the Democratic nomination race.


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Now that Hillary Clinton has become the presumptive presidential nominee of the Democratic Party, then essentially the final candidates are now set and I've revised the poll again.

Who do you want to be the next U.S. President?

I guess most Americans will still consider their running mates before making a final decision.


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where is the anybody but trump choice?


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I guess Trump's theory that if Paris had allowed it's citizens to carry guns, the massacre wouldn't have happened. Floridians are allowed to have guns and can carry concealed. The club had armed security and we still have the worst domestic gun shooting in American History. Here is a guy, investigated twice by Federal Authorities for possible terrorist/extremest leanings, who worked as a security guard, had all the "required" licensing to carry and had to wait a whole 3 days to legally buy an assault rifle. I call it insanity, in America, just another day. What is Trump going to say about this. I like citizens who are "good shots". Maybe he will build a wall around New York. That was where this guy was originally from.


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The running mates have been selected.

First, Donald Trump has selected the incumber Governor of Indiana, Mike Pence. Then Hillary Clinton has chosen former Governor of Virginia and incumber Senator
from Virginia, Tim Kaine. Has this affected your decision?

And unlike the last two Presidents in which their Vice-Presidents are older and (hopefully) more experienced, this time the next Vice-President will be younger than the President. Even though Pence is actually 13 years younger than Trump, he actually older.

In either case, neither candidate has made the mistake and chosen a much younger running mate which is what George H.W. Bush. Even though he still won the Presidency, I'm sure he was embarrassed to have a an intellectual lightweight and generally incompetent VP in the form of Dan Quayle who said so many dumb things.

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祝你老鼠年行大運。
恭喜西雅图海鹰直到第四十八屆超級盃最終四十三比八大勝曾拿下兩次超級盃冠軍的丹佛野馬拿下隊史第一個超級盃冠軍。
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Re: 2016 U.S. Presidential Election Thread

Less than a month before the U.S. Presidential election.

For those of you who watched the first two Presidential debates, did that sway your opinion on who should be the next U.S. President?

Here is the second debate if you missed it:


Do you intend to watch the third and final debate?
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