Lions 42 - Eskimos 32, Post-Game Stats and Comments

[Fred.Fonce]

I agree Lulay will never be confused with Damon Allen but it is because Lulay is a better QB than Allen ever was.

I was referring only to pure athletic ability, not overall QB prowess. Lulay is my favorite Lion QB so you've no argument with me on that, and yes I'm old enough to remember Kapp.

[Gridiron Ernie]

Here's a "post-game comment" (so to speak) that's apparently going viral at the expense of our #4. Had I been that EE player (Duke W. I think) I would have wished to do the very same! Garry Peters deserved all he got right there and then. I note that the score at that moment reads 22--38, and the clock says end of 3rd quarter. Though we're in the lead there's a long way to go yet, Mr. Peters!

The strutting over-confidence of players (especially long before the final whistle) always drives me nuts. It's a bit small-minded of me, I know, but when I see this from Duke W. I say 'right on'! I know confidence mixed with a certain amount of cockiness is common out there, but don't be taken by surprise if it comes back and bites you! Well, whatever. The video clip is good for a giggle.

http://3downnation.com/2018/10/21/b-c-l ... oes-viral/

[DanoT]

Here's a "post-game comment" (so to speak) that's apparently going viral at the expense of our #4. Had I been that EE player (Duke W. I think) I would have wished to do the very same! Garry Peters deserved all he got right there and then. I note that the score at that moment reads 22--38, and the clock says end of 3rd quarter. Though we're in the lead there's a long way to go yet, Mr. Peters! The strutting over-confidence of players (especially long before the final whistle) always drives me nuts. It's a bit small-minded of me, I know, but when I see this from Duke W. I say 'right on'! I know confidence mixed with a certain amount of cockiness is common out there, but don't be taken by surprise if it comes back and bites you! Well, whatever. The video clip is good for a giggle.
http://3downnation.com/2018/10/21/b-c-l ... oes-viral/

I am not sure but I think the Esks player Duke Williams got a penalty on the play for throwing a block prior to the pass completion. I am OK with Peters goading Duke into taking a penalty.

[Gridiron Ernie]

Here's a "post-game comment" (so to speak) that's apparently going viral at the expense of our #4. Had I been that EE player (Duke W. I think) I would have wished to do the very same! Garry Peters deserved all he got right there and then. I note that the score at that moment reads 22--38, and the clock says end of 3rd quarter. Though we're in the lead there's a long way to go yet, Mr. Peters!

The strutting over-confidence of players (especially long before the final whistle) always drives me nuts. It's a bit small-minded of me, I know, but when I see this from Duke W. I say 'right on'! I know confidence mixed with a certain amount of cockiness is common out there, but don't be taken by surprise if it comes back and bites you! Well, whatever. The video clip is good for a giggle.
http://3downnation.com/2018/10/21/b-c-l ... oes-viral/

I am not sure but I think the Esks player Duke Williams got a penalty on the play for throwing a block prior to the pass completion. I am OK with Peters goading Duke into taking a penalty.

I'm not at all sure about that either DanoT. Initially I was going to defer to your perhaps younger/better memory, and leave it at that. But I figured I would have had at least some vague recall of something as you've described.

Out of curiosity I checked the game records -- both the play by play and the total penalties. In short EE only committed 3 penalties in the game and the only one on offence was a time-count on Reilly, and there's no record of any penalty at any time for any reason on Duke W. But I'll stand corrected if the post-game statisticians somehow missed it.

I guess for me, even if it was so, i.e. goading resulting in a penalty, I'd still stand by my comment and my respect for players who play with the on-field demeanor of the likes of Lulay and Burnham. Those are my kind of guys. But hats off to Peters for a darn good game!

Playing man-to-man on Duke W. could be a nightmare. Maybe I should cut Garry some slack. OK. Done. I've forgiven him for offending my sensibilities! heh heh.

[TheLionKing]

Totally agree. He's never had the strongest arm, or the most accurate. He's a good runner but not the fastest. In other words his athletic skills are good enough to be a #1 QB but won't be confused with Damon Allen.

Lulay can read the game clock far better than Damon Allen

[Fred.Fonce]

Totally agree. He's never had the strongest arm, or the most accurate. He's a good runner but not the fastest. In other words his athletic skills are good enough to be a #1 QB but won't be confused with Damon Allen.

Lulay can read the game clock far better than Damon Allen

Exactly the point I was making. I was referring to athletic ability only in my comparison to Allen. The second part of my post was pretty clear about what I think of Lulay's intellect.

[Fred.Fonce]

I am not sure but I think the Esks player Duke Williams got a penalty on the play for throwing a block prior to the pass completion. I am OK with Peters goading Duke into taking a penalty.

I still had the game on pvr and was half way watching it for the 2nd time, turned it back on and that's the play that was cued up. No penalty was called.

[QB Club 63]

Here's a "post-game comment" (so to speak) that's apparently going viral at the expense of our #4. Had I been that EE player (Duke W. I think) I would have wished to do the very same! Garry Peters deserved all he got right there and then. I note that the score at that moment reads 22--38, and the clock says end of 3rd quarter. Though we're in the lead there's a long way to go yet, Mr. Peters!

The strutting over-confidence of players (especially long before the final whistle) always drives me nuts. It's a bit small-minded of me, I know, but when I see this from Duke W. I say 'right on'! I know confidence mixed with a certain amount of cockiness is common out there, but don't be taken by surprise if it comes back and bites you! Well, whatever. The video clip is good for a giggle.

Please excuse my ignorance, but I prefer to look at the whole picture. Didn't EE LOSE this game? And wasn't this just another example of how the coaching "style" of Jason Maas has turned his team into cheap-shot artists? (Just ask TJ Lee who got lit up on a sketchy blind-side block!)

Congrats Maas. You have personally molded your team in your image so they are THE MOST PENALIZED TEAM in the Western Division. Nice legacy.

[Toppy Vann]

Here's a "post-game comment" (so to speak) that's apparently going viral at the expense of our #4. Had I been that EE player (Duke W. I think) I would have wished to do the very same! Garry Peters deserved all he got right there and then. I note that the score at that moment reads 22--38, and the clock says end of 3rd quarter. Though we're in the lead there's a long way to go yet, Mr. Peters!

The strutting over-confidence of players (especially long before the final whistle) always drives me nuts. It's a bit small-minded of me, I know, but when I see this from Duke W. I say 'right on'! I know confidence mixed with a certain amount of cockiness is common out there, but don't be taken by surprise if it comes back and bites you! Well, whatever. The video clip is good for a giggle.

Please excuse my ignorance, but I prefer to look at the whole picture. Didn't EE LOSE this game? And wasn't this just another example of how the coaching "style" of Jason Maas has turned his team into cheap-shot artists? (Just ask TJ Lee who got lit up on a sketchy blind-side block!)

Congrats Maas. You have personally molded your team in your image so they are THE MOST PENALIZED TEAM in the Western Division. Nice legacy.

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From 3 DowN:

The original video had been viewed more than five million times by Sunday morning and is now being used in other contexts… the next step in true internet infamy.

Over 5 million views and commentators south of the 49th laughing at it suggests that this young Lion needs to grow up a bit. He looks foolish and silly and is a North American laughing stock as he got run over like a truck.

I know football at the pro level has lots of trash talkers but when you can't back it up, you'd best shut up and play football.

[Dusty]

At the start of the year, I posted that Peters and Young were the weak links in the secondary. Young was let go and Peters has improved his coverage skills. I think he has benefited from the shift to more man coverages as he drops off a bit deep during zone coverages. I was surprised by his effectiveness covering Williams, who is such a big/tall target. I don't remember the run-over, perhaps it was on the other side of the field.

Overall, I thought Peters had a good game... while Williams was relatively ineffective with 4 catches on 9 targets.

[WestCoastJoe]

At the start of the year, I posted that Peters and Young were the weak links in the secondary. Young was let go and Peters has improved his coverage skills. I think he has benefited from the shift to more man coverages as he drops off a bit deep during zone coverages. I was surprised by his effectiveness covering Williams, who is such a big/tall target. I don't remember the run-over, perhaps it was on the other side of the field.

Overall, I thought Peters had a good game... while Williams was relatively ineffective with 4 catches on 9 targets.

Peters got steam rolled. People love the banana-skin syndrome, as with all the American coverage. For this fan, not a big deal. Getting run over happens a lot in football. LOL

Williams is a big time woofer. Of course some DBs are going to woof back.

I think one could have called penalty on Williams as he ran right over Peters, who was entitled to his space (It would have been a foul in basketball). Not sure if one was called. If it was called, good on Peters. It it was not called, bad on the refs.

Just IMO ...

[green road kill]

Well we're in , the lions did it by beating the Shmoes and there crowned jewel QB. They did it by winning the second halfe, they did it with a defence that stuffed RIelly
And his all star offence. Held them to 34 yards in the 3 rd qùarter. They did with the leadership of a 35 year old QB that had never known the word quit.
The lions are 6 and 1 since mid season , who cares about a 3 and 6 start nobody has ever won a cup in halve a season.

What I don t understand is why there isn t more of a buzz about what the team has done, since mid season on this forum. Instead there is a bunch of , why we should be
Lossing, we can all coach better than they can , and we all hate Walley. Wich is all starting to get a bit boring

The Leo s are a very Dangerous team to play , they believe in themselves, they believe in each other,they believe in there's coaches, they believe there going to win. And as I have said before belief is a before, belief is a very power full alley

I don t know what Is going to happen Saturday, but it's going to be 4 quarters of,in your face,down and dirty eye gouging slug fest,from our Leo s. Something maybe SASK Fluff isn t ready for.


Bin THere Since 64

And hope for many more

[Figaro]

A few comments on the win against Edmonton:

First, I believe if there was one play that won the game for us it was Rainey’s return for a touchdown. At the time the score was 12-0 and we looked flat. As I mentioned in an earlier post, we couldn’t afford to have a slow start as we did in Hamilton: we didn't look ready to play and it appeared early that we were headed for another pasting. Remember in our 6 games before the Edmonton game we allowed the opposition to score points only once in the first quarter - that game had us 20-0 down in the first quarter to Hamilton.

And then along came Rainey. His first move is a killer. And then the speed. The building and team woke up after his return and suddenly we were back in a game we were giving away. I want to congratulate every player on ST and their coach Jeff Reinbold for the first class work all game on special teams. A few warriors who seldom get the spotlight: Isaiah Guzylak-Messam #44 seemed to be in on every coverage play as were Dyshawn Davis #36 and Wayne Moore #33. These guys deserve big props for their full out efforts on every ST play. Look for them next game.

Second, finally we got rid of RPO and you can see what our O-line can do. Look at the pocket around Lulay when he threw the two bombs to Posey. Kudos to the line - especially Figueroa - is there a better left tackle in the CFL and to Pierson at center - it is now Pierson’s job. Not meaning to slag Husband who is a great center, but watching a cold rookie come in and play one of the toughest positions on the field as though he has been ripping off all-star season after all-star season is something that needs to be lauded long and loud.

Third, we stretched the field with our passing game. Getting out of the RPO allowed our receivers time to work some separation and a smart QB like Lulay is going to see that and pounce. Sutton is a stud not only in seeking out someone to hit when carrying the ball, but he looks like he loves hitting blitzing linebackers just as much. Benevedes just couldn’t get his backers past Sutton.

Fourth, we stopped the run. First game Gable ran for over 160 yards in an embarrassing Lions’ loss. This game he managed 11 yards. I was surprised how quickly Edmonton abandoned the run game - this is what we wanted - to force Edmonton to win on Reilly’s arm. He is talented, but without a run game, and with an aggressive man to man defense in the secondary he was under pressure all night. A couple of his passes were real floaters because he was hit in his passing motion. Herdman, Foster, and Lokombo vying to be an elite linebacking crew.

Lastly, I think I see a different Wally on the sidelines. Earlier in the season he looked detached from his team and not sure what the calls were. In this last game, he was much more focused and into the game. I think he is listening to his players and is now coaching to their strengths rather than plug and play - not slipping back into the soft zone but giving the opposition some real aggressive play like his players can bring. He is more engaged with his players and coaches.

The future looks bright. Let’s win out.

[WestCoastJoe]

Great post, Figaro.

Enjoyed reading it.

Rainey

Reinebold STs

RPO

O Line

Figueroa

Sutton

Wally listening, allowing and adapting

As noted, it seems to me all the credentialed veterans brought in on defence were voices that would not be denied. Willis. Lemon. Foster. Orange. Peters. Et cetera. We saw the change first with the defence. Pressure, not soft zone. Overloads at the LOS. Movement. Fakes. Stunts. Well, timed, disguised blitzes. Tight cover, varied with looser cover. MTM. Zone. Still align the safety too deep imo.

And Lulay is that voice for the offence. Experience, credentials and personal qualities that cannot be denied as a voice for the good of the team. No more RPO. Play action. Shovel pass. Focus on strong pocket protection. QB mobility. Rollouts. QB run. Running game. Fresh, customized game plan. Routes that get separation for receivers.

And one can only speculate on Hervey's influence on the philosophy of the offence and defence. We know he brought in DBs who like MTM. He brought in DL that can penetrate and get after the QB. He brought in a true deep threat in Posey, a power runner in Sutton.

This fan does not like players thrown under the bus publicly, but Hervey has done an amazing job bringing in talent.

There has been wholesale change now within the team. Personnel. Systems. Philosophy. A pleasure to see. It might still revert as playoffs approach. Protect the lead. Play ''safe.'' Do not go for it. Hope for mistakes by the opponent. Try to hang on. Punt, rather than try the field goal, as the opponent might run it back for a score. Get back on defence. Put an LB back as a second safety. Keep your safety very deep, out of the play usually. Control your gaps rather than penetrate. Execute the plays every opponent knows as well as us. Stay with what we know. Serve up the same old, same old. Gawd forbid.

Enjoying the ride ...

[Gridiron Ernie]

Was just enjoying the game's video highlight package and noticed during Rainey's stellar kick return, right around the 35 yard line, as he's attempting to escort Rainey home, David Menard (#78) goes down like a ton and lies there neither looking up nor moving. As I replayed that bit It appears he suddenly grabs at his knee or his hamstring on the way down.

I don't recall mention of his injury by the telecast crew, so perhaps it wasn't as significant as it looks in that moment on film -- or perhaps the commentators just missed it. In any case, has anyone heard any murmuring since the weekend regards game casualties? Menard would be a noteworthy loss for sure! (backing up Lemon on the line and always motoring on special teams). I'd be very sorry to hear it was serious.