I think Wally doesn't like "ratio breaker" Nationals because he thinks they get paid too much compared to more plentiful and therefore cheaper Internationals, Andrew Harris vs Jeremiah Johnson and Rutley being a good example as well as Hunter Stewart and Foucault at guard instead of tackle.
However by converting Stewart and Foucault from tackle in college to starting guards in the CFL, if there is an in game injury to a INT. tackle then Stewart of Foucault just move over one spot to tackle (and don't even have to go to the opposite side of the O line) and then the only backup players dressed for the O line are NAT. guard/centre types. So there is some method to Wally and Dan's madness.
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To suggest that anyone on here posts "hate" of Wally Buono is way over the top especially when it is about someone who provides tons of analysis and detail and knows football Xs and Os better than 99% of us here.
Wally Buono himself knows that criticism is part of the business and he handles that without running away and taking his whistle home and he stands up and defends himself which I respect as I do his overall record. I heard him tell Matt Sekeres on TSN he could suit at QB just recently and no one on TSN is attacking the bristling Wally when he fights back.
It's fair to comment that someone thinks criticism is over the top but I don't think comments here rise to the level of hate.
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Hambone:
1. I went to Lion games in WPG and CAL and the Lions got their butts kicked in both and that was in seasons when the Lions were playing pretty good football ('05 or '06).
2. As to Ed Hervey free to choose his own Head Coach and his pick was Wally I'm really not sure that was:
a. either wise on his part; or,
b. wise organizationally given that Wally is his boss; and
c. his last year as HC and GM with the Dennis the Pres pretty much gone really was hard on him and the team showed it pretty much everywhere.
Organizationally, I'd have wanted Wally to be the public face of the franchise as that clearly is not the skill set the new GM has. In fact, I'd have been happy if Wally was President and VP Football Operations and carried on here in BC and use some money to bring in some decent marketing assistance.
I certainly don't hate Buono as that's pretty harsh stuff.
Wally Buono himself knows that criticism is part of the business and he handles that without running away and taking his whistle home and he stands up and defends himself which I respect as I do his overall record. I heard him tell Matt Sekeres on TSN he could suit at QB just recently and no one on TSN is attacking the bristling Wally when he fights back.
It's fair to comment that someone thinks criticism is over the top but I don't think comments here rise to the level of hate.
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Hambone:
1. I went to Lion games in WPG and CAL and the Lions got their butts kicked in both and that was in seasons when the Lions were playing pretty good football ('05 or '06).
2. As to Ed Hervey free to choose his own Head Coach and his pick was Wally I'm really not sure that was:
a. either wise on his part; or,
b. wise organizationally given that Wally is his boss; and
c. his last year as HC and GM with the Dennis the Pres pretty much gone really was hard on him and the team showed it pretty much everywhere.
Organizationally, I'd have wanted Wally to be the public face of the franchise as that clearly is not the skill set the new GM has. In fact, I'd have been happy if Wally was President and VP Football Operations and carried on here in BC and use some money to bring in some decent marketing assistance.
I certainly don't hate Buono as that's pretty harsh stuff.
"Ability without character will lose." - Marv Levy
I think if you feel Blitz is a great X’s and O’s guy that’s great and perhaps he knows more than 99% of the posters here. I doubt he has ever played a down of pro football nor has he coached a pro team( anyone banging on his door trying to hire him?), Buono has done both and in fact is the winningest coach in the CFL. He like everyone else on this site deserves respect. As I said, comment on his football calls, but to say he has no class, has a twitch or stutters is completely over the top and then to follow up with some weird comment about his religion (really)!Toppy Vann wrote: ↑Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:59 pmTo suggest that anyone on here posts "hate" of Wally Buono is way over the top especially when it is about someone who provides tons of analysis and detail and knows football Xs and Os better than 99% of us here.
Wally Buono himself knows that criticism is part of the business and he handles that without running away and taking his whistle home and he stands up and defends himself which I respect as I do his overall record. I heard him tell Matt Sekeres on TSN he could suit at QB just recently and no one on TSN is attacking the bristling Wally when he fights back.
It's fair to comment that someone thinks criticism is over the top but I don't think comments here rise to the level of hate.
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Hambone:
1. I went to Lion games in WPG and CAL and the Lions got their butts kicked in both and that was in seasons when the Lions were playing pretty good football ('05 or '06).
2. As to Ed Hervey free to choose his own Head Coach and his pick was Wally I'm really not sure that was:
a. either wise on his part; or,
b. wise organizationally given that Wally is his boss; and
c. his last year as HC and GM with the Dennis the Pres pretty much gone really was hard on him and the team showed it pretty much everywhere.
Organizationally, I'd have wanted Wally to be the public face of the franchise as that clearly is not the skill set the new GM has. In fact, I'd have been happy if Wally was President and VP Football Operations and carried on here in BC and use some money to bring in some decent marketing assistance.
I certainly don't hate Buono as that's pretty harsh stuff.
If you feel I’m being too critical, well what goes around comes around!
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I believe there is a difference between being critical of Buono or other Leos or other CFL coaches, for that matter, and attacking fellow posters, as you are. I am not attacking you for your viewpoints.
By my being critical of Buono, you also said that I deserve to be criticized by you ('what goes around, comes around').
Its an interesting concept. I never thought that if a poster was critical of the coaching staff then they deserved to be criticized too.
This is professional football and its also professional entertainment. This is not about supporting or not supporting your local amateur volunteer football coach who puts in a ton of hours to develop young athletes.
This is also not a pro team sponsored website, where posters are not allowed to be critical of any aspect of the team.
I recognize that there are posters on Lionbackers who are very supportive of Wally Buono and others who are not, including me and it might even be fair to say especially me.
Hambone, for example is a huge supporter of Wally Buono and while my views are very different I still respect him as a poster and appreciate his contribution to this site.
My views are different than yours on this subject. It would be a boring website if we all thought the same on every topic or thread.
But there are different ways to deal with this, other than the way you are doing it.
If you strongly believe that any of my comments regarding Buono, past and present, are unacceptable or inappropriate for this website, then you should write a post to the Team Captains, stating your reasons, and they will deal with it.
There are also other posters who do not confine their comments to only the play calling of Buono and if you believe that they are also out of line, you should also follow the same procedure.
There are guidelines for what can be posted and cannot be posted on Lionbackers, as there are also guidelines as to how posters on Lionbackers deal with each other.
If I am out deemed out of line, I will ensure that I follow the protocol requested or demanded of me. If they determine that I am only allowed to make comments on Buono's play calling and nothing else or determine that some of my comments are inappropriate, I will adhere to their decision.
But it is not up to you to determine what I or other Lionbacker posters are allowed to post regarding Buono - eg: to be only limited to his play calling during a game. You don't make the rules on this site nor do I.
I have not responded to your comments because I don't really believe they are mostly about my views of Buono. Quite frankly, I think that you would look for any excuse to attack me. I hope I am wrong.
Either way, use the process and if necessary I will too.
By my being critical of Buono, you also said that I deserve to be criticized by you ('what goes around, comes around').
Its an interesting concept. I never thought that if a poster was critical of the coaching staff then they deserved to be criticized too.
This is professional football and its also professional entertainment. This is not about supporting or not supporting your local amateur volunteer football coach who puts in a ton of hours to develop young athletes.
This is also not a pro team sponsored website, where posters are not allowed to be critical of any aspect of the team.
I recognize that there are posters on Lionbackers who are very supportive of Wally Buono and others who are not, including me and it might even be fair to say especially me.
Hambone, for example is a huge supporter of Wally Buono and while my views are very different I still respect him as a poster and appreciate his contribution to this site.
My views are different than yours on this subject. It would be a boring website if we all thought the same on every topic or thread.
But there are different ways to deal with this, other than the way you are doing it.
If you strongly believe that any of my comments regarding Buono, past and present, are unacceptable or inappropriate for this website, then you should write a post to the Team Captains, stating your reasons, and they will deal with it.
There are also other posters who do not confine their comments to only the play calling of Buono and if you believe that they are also out of line, you should also follow the same procedure.
There are guidelines for what can be posted and cannot be posted on Lionbackers, as there are also guidelines as to how posters on Lionbackers deal with each other.
If I am out deemed out of line, I will ensure that I follow the protocol requested or demanded of me. If they determine that I am only allowed to make comments on Buono's play calling and nothing else or determine that some of my comments are inappropriate, I will adhere to their decision.
But it is not up to you to determine what I or other Lionbacker posters are allowed to post regarding Buono - eg: to be only limited to his play calling during a game. You don't make the rules on this site nor do I.
I have not responded to your comments because I don't really believe they are mostly about my views of Buono. Quite frankly, I think that you would look for any excuse to attack me. I hope I am wrong.
Either way, use the process and if necessary I will too.
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Well said, Blitz.
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Initial suspicions confirmed. The club just 6-gamed Rutley today with an ACL tear.
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It's the internet. Don't expect much and you won't be disappointed. Reading some posters on this site is like listening to a broken record. Others offer truly insightful commentary. And most lie somewhere in between. Only you can decide which one is which.ziggy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:40 pm
I think if you feel Blitz is a great X’s and O’s guy that’s great and perhaps he knows more than 99% of the posters here. I doubt he has ever played a down of pro football nor has he coached a pro team( anyone banging on his door trying to hire him?), Buono has done both and in fact is the winningest coach in the CFL. He like everyone else on this site deserves respect. As I said, comment on his football calls, but to say he has no class, has a twitch or stutters is completely over the top and then to follow up with some weird comment about his religion (really)!
If you feel I’m being too critical, well what goes around comes around!
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