Will the Lions' atttendance numbers improve in 2012?

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CatsEyes wrote:Before I reply, I was wondering if there are any special instructions I needed for posting in this thread ;)
Rule #7 : thread gets locked if title is wrong ...someone was supposed to point out that I spelled attendance with an extra 't' in the thread title. :wink:
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Buonosjanet69 wrote:I really think they should have the roof open for maybe two summer home games. I know Wally and Co want the roof closed for fan noise, FGs, etc but I think one or two games with the roof open would be nice. Maybe even the exhibition game, if the other games are an issue.

Things like that can push tix a bit too. If the brass says we will open the roof for a game or two, fans would want to be there for that. They should get creative with the marketing, this product is hot right now. l
I wouldn't worry about the roof not being opened. Buono has said (assuming he'll still be in charge next year)...the open roof is for the summer when it's warm and the roof closed for when the weather turns cold. When asked, he said he'd prefer the roof closed because it makes it harder for the visiting team to operate, but the roof will definitely be opened next summer...the fans who paid to build B.C. Place will demand it. So buy your season's tickets with confidence, they'd make a purrfect Christmas Gift! :thup:
Hear, hear... it would make absolutely NO sense to keep the roof closed during the hot sunny evenings that dominate the summer part of our schedule. We finally have a solution to one of the top complaints about being at BCP in the summertime and then we CHOOSE not to implement it?
Sports can be a peculiar thing. When partaking in fiction, like a book or movie, we adopt a "Willing Suspension of Disbelief" for enjoyment's sake. There's a similar force at work in sports: "Willing Suspension of Rationality". If you doubt this, listen to any conversation between rival team fans. You even see it among fans of the same team. Fans argue over who's the better QB or goalie, and selectively cite stats that support their views while ignoring those that don't.
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cromartie wrote:Almost without fail, attendance improves the year after a team wins a championship, usually by close to 20%, even if there's a sell off ala the Florida Marlins.
Also I recall that the Lions didn't increase that much after 94 and 00, in fact may have lost some numbers on the 94 season
True, the average attendance did not increase significantly after 94, 00, and 06. It lost some numbers after the 2000 GC. Perhaps that explains why it appears the 2000 championship is by far the least popular and memorable.

1985 - 42,336
1986 - 46,526

1994 - 25,274
1995 - 26,182

2000 - 22,806
2001 - 19,856

2006 - 31,190
2007 - 32,456
祝加拿大加式足球聯賽不列颠哥伦比亚卑詩雄獅隊今年贏格雷杯冠軍。此外祝溫哥華加人隊贏總統獎座·卡雲斯·甘保杯·史丹利盃。還每年祝溫哥華白頭浪隊贏美國足球大联盟杯。不要忘記每年祝溫哥華巨人贏西部冰球聯盟冠軍。
改建後的卑詩體育館於二十十一年九月三十日重新對外開放,首場體育活動為同日舉行的加拿大足球聯賽賽事,由主場的卑詩雄獅隊以三十三比二十四擊敗愛民頓愛斯基摩人隊。
祝你龍年行大運。
恭喜西雅图海鹰直到第四十八屆超級盃最終四十三比八大勝曾拿下兩次超級盃冠軍的丹佛野馬拿下隊史第一個超級盃冠軍。
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David wrote:From the Tritterverse this morning:
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Franchise value went up big time for owner David Braley. He wants 38-40,000 fans per game next year. 20-25,000 season tix sold.
What he wants and gets can be two different things, but I have to believe his season ticket projection is possible if they were at 18K this year. I think they've got to be really careful with their pricing strategy not to gouge in an effort to keep themselves affordable for the average fan.


DH :cool:
Whether Braley gets 38,000-40,000 fans per game will depend on the ticket structure and how the Lions start the 2012 season. It better not be another 0-6 and 0-5 start.
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I have given up my season ticket and will only consider to be at one or two games next year. The price is rocket high.
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David wrote:From the Tritterverse this morning:
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Franchise value went up big time for owner David Braley. He wants 38-40,000 fans per game next year. 20-25,000 season tix sold.
What he wants and gets can be two different things, but I have to believe his season ticket projection is possible if they were at 18K this year. I think they've got to be really careful with their pricing strategy not to gouge in an effort to keep themselves affordable for the average fan.


DH :cool:
Whether Braley gets 38,000-40,000 fans per game will depend on the ticket structure and how the Lions start the 2012 season. It better not be another 0-6 and 0-5 start.
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Big_Lions_Fan wrote:I have given up my season ticket and will only consider to be at one or two games next year. The price is rocket high.
I don't know about other sections, but it looks like yellow seasons in 2012, without a Grey Cup ticket, are only about $50 apiece less than they were in 2011 when the Grey Cup ticket was included.
Sports can be a peculiar thing. When partaking in fiction, like a book or movie, we adopt a "Willing Suspension of Disbelief" for enjoyment's sake. There's a similar force at work in sports: "Willing Suspension of Rationality". If you doubt this, listen to any conversation between rival team fans. You even see it among fans of the same team. Fans argue over who's the better QB or goalie, and selectively cite stats that support their views while ignoring those that don't.
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Didn't understand what you are referring to, sj-roc.
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Big_Lions_Fan wrote:I have given up my season ticket and will only consider to be at one or two games next year. The price is rocket high.
I don't know about other sections, but it looks like yellow seasons in 2012, without a Grey Cup ticket, are only about $50 apiece less than they were in 2011 when the Grey Cup ticket was included.
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Big_Lions_Fan wrote:Didn't understand what you are referring to, sj-roc.
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Big_Lions_Fan wrote:I have given up my season ticket and will only consider to be at one or two games next year. The price is rocket high.
I don't know about other sections, but it looks like yellow seasons in 2012, without a Grey Cup ticket, are only about $50 apiece less than they were in 2011 when the Grey Cup ticket was included.
2011 yellow section season ticket + yellow Grey Cup ticket = $475
2012 yellow section season ticket + NO Grey Cup ticket = $425

Given what GC tickets run for these days, what's the better value?
Sports can be a peculiar thing. When partaking in fiction, like a book or movie, we adopt a "Willing Suspension of Disbelief" for enjoyment's sake. There's a similar force at work in sports: "Willing Suspension of Rationality". If you doubt this, listen to any conversation between rival team fans. You even see it among fans of the same team. Fans argue over who's the better QB or goalie, and selectively cite stats that support their views while ignoring those that don't.
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David wrote:From the Tritterverse this morning:
News1130Sports
Franchise value went up big time for owner David Braley. He wants 38-40,000 fans per game next year. 20-25,000 season tix sold.
What he wants and gets can be two different things, but I have to believe his season ticket projection is possible if they were at 18K this year. I think they've got to be really careful with their pricing strategy not to gouge in an effort to keep themselves affordable for the average fan.


DH :cool:
Well, they already released that strategy a few weeks ago, so what do you think of the price increases? The best end zone seat is going to run $425 on the year. I see they're also including a free Lions scarf with every season ticket sold (presumably that's one for every ticket in your account).

I think once the schedule is announced, they will (or should) put together some sort of 3-game pack or mini-packs, perhaps at a smaller discount than the (up to) 26% they're claiming between season and single game pricing.
Sports can be a peculiar thing. When partaking in fiction, like a book or movie, we adopt a "Willing Suspension of Disbelief" for enjoyment's sake. There's a similar force at work in sports: "Willing Suspension of Rationality". If you doubt this, listen to any conversation between rival team fans. You even see it among fans of the same team. Fans argue over who's the better QB or goalie, and selectively cite stats that support their views while ignoring those that don't.
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i think 475 is a much better deal. sj-roc.
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Big_Lions_Fan wrote:Didn't understand what you are referring to, sj-roc.

I don't know about other sections, but it looks like yellow seasons in 2012, without a Grey Cup ticket, are only about $50 apiece less than they were in 2011 when the Grey Cup ticket was included.
2011 yellow section season ticket + yellow Grey Cup ticket = $475
2012 yellow section season ticket + NO Grey Cup ticket = $425

Given what GC tickets run for these days, what's the better value?[/quote]
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robbie, you should update your signature now, canucks lost stanley cup in june 2011.
Robbie wrote:
Rammer wrote:
cromartie wrote:Almost without fail, attendance improves the year after a team wins a championship, usually by close to 20%, even if there's a sell off ala the Florida Marlins.
Also I recall that the Lions didn't increase that much after 94 and 00, in fact may have lost some numbers on the 94 season
True, the average attendance did not increase significantly after 94, 00, and 06. It lost some numbers after the 2000 GC. Perhaps that explains why it appears the 2000 championship is by far the least popular and memorable.

1985 - 42,336
1986 - 46,526

1994 - 25,274
1995 - 26,182

2000 - 22,806
2001 - 19,856

2006 - 31,190
2007 - 32,456
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Big_Lions_Fan wrote:robbie, you should update your signature now, canucks lost stanley cup in june 2011.
Actually my signature does not say the Canucks won the Stanley Cup in June 2011. I did make a small change to my signature with regards to the recent events of the Lions though. :wink:
祝加拿大加式足球聯賽不列颠哥伦比亚卑詩雄獅隊今年贏格雷杯冠軍。此外祝溫哥華加人隊贏總統獎座·卡雲斯·甘保杯·史丹利盃。還每年祝溫哥華白頭浪隊贏美國足球大联盟杯。不要忘記每年祝溫哥華巨人贏西部冰球聯盟冠軍。
改建後的卑詩體育館於二十十一年九月三十日重新對外開放,首場體育活動為同日舉行的加拿大足球聯賽賽事,由主場的卑詩雄獅隊以三十三比二十四擊敗愛民頓愛斯基摩人隊。
祝你龍年行大運。
恭喜西雅图海鹰直到第四十八屆超級盃最終四十三比八大勝曾拿下兩次超級盃冠軍的丹佛野馬拿下隊史第一個超級盃冠軍。
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Big_Lions_Fan wrote:i think 475 is a much better deal. sj-roc.
Exactly, I was echoing your point that the prices for next year have increased quite noticeably. People have discussed on here, even before those increases were announced, that ticket pricing was starting to reach the breaking point. Well, it's closer than ever now, and past it in your case (by your own admittance). So when the inevitable hue and cry comes next season and we're wondering why the Lions don't draw bigger crowds, here's exhibit A.
Sports can be a peculiar thing. When partaking in fiction, like a book or movie, we adopt a "Willing Suspension of Disbelief" for enjoyment's sake. There's a similar force at work in sports: "Willing Suspension of Rationality". If you doubt this, listen to any conversation between rival team fans. You even see it among fans of the same team. Fans argue over who's the better QB or goalie, and selectively cite stats that support their views while ignoring those that don't.
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first game should be a big crowd, in any case, so that should bloat the overall numbers a bit.

Why?

To see Geroy get the record, so hopefully the first game is at home.
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