Is It Rourke Time for the Jaguars?

[Dusty]

Nathan has been added to the active roster for Sunday's game, according to Farhan.

[Toppy Vann]

Nathan has been added to the active roster for Sunday's game, according to Farhan.

Thanks for the heads up. Have to watch that game.

Once again Nathan Rourke can get a decent pay cheque for just a second time. I'm being facetious as he's earning more than a PR player in the CFL but less than the Lions would have paid him to start. Granted it's part of the dream he and his brother both have.

Rourke earns $41,666 USD per week while on the Jaguars’ 53-man active roster. He had $221,000 USD guaranteed when he signed his three-year contract with Jacksonville and makes $12,000 per week on the practice squad.

What's the likelihood of this happening and if he got grabbed off waivers, would this be part of his plan?

The native of Oakville, Ont. successfully cleared waivers on that occasion but a growing number of teams could be in the market for a quarterback with injuries mounting late in the season.

https://3downnation.com/2023/12/09/jack ... ve-roster/

[Hambone]

Nathan has been added to the active roster for Sunday's game, according to Farhan.

Added to the 53 man active roster is not to be confused with the 48 man game roster. It remains to be seen if he actually is named to the 48 in place of Lawrence or if like last time he's the 49th man who can only step on the field if both Beathard and Lawrence are declared out for the remainder of the game.

[Hambone]

Terms of Rourke's deal making up the $221K included a $5K signing bonus and guaranteeing the 18 weeks of PR pay @ $12K = $216K. I'd assume his $12K of PR pay for Week 7 and this week would be replaced by 2 game cheques. If he doesn't get another game cheque after this week he still stands to earn approximately USD$300K = CDN$407K.

[Dusty]

Nathan has been added to the active roster for Sunday's game, according to Farhan.

Added to the 53 man active roster is not to be confused with the 48 man game roster. It remains to be seen if he actually is named to the 48 in place of Lawrence or if like last time he's the 49th man who can only step on the field if both Beathard and Lawrence are declared out for the remainder of the game.

Quite right about the 53 man roster. I suspect he will be 49th man and only see action if Lawrence is banged up some more and declared out for the game. Even then, it will be a non playing date unless Beathard is either injured and can't continue or is so ineffective that they consider him "injured" and Rourke plays.

I can't see them developing a package for Rourke to be a "second" QB while Beathard is still operating as No.1.

[Blitz]

Lawrence will start.

[B.C.FAN]

Lawrence will start.

Yes, from videos I’ve seen, Lawrence looked good in pregame warmups. Rourke will dress as the emergency third quarterback but he can only enter the game if Lawrence and Beathard are declared out for the duration of the game. At least he gets a game cheque.

[B.C.FAN]

Lawrence showed no ill effects while scrambling, rolling out and even taking some big hits in the first half but his throwing mechanics were clearly off. He completed just 11 of 22 passes for 100 yards, 1 TD and 2 interceptions and a QB rating of 40.0. He was outplayed by 38-year-old Cleveland QB Joe Flacco, who was picked up just 3 weeks ago and threw for 212 yards, 2 TDs and 1 INT in the half.

[B.C.FAN]

Lawrence played the whole game and was 28 of 50 for 257 yards, 3 TDs and 3 INTs and was sacked 4 times in a 31-27 loss.

[Toppy Vann]

I'm convinced there is little to no upside to ever play your 3rd QB under NFL rules.
It's like their OT rule. Sounds good but the wrinkle with OT makes it ridiculous.

Instead of just having 3 QBs on their roster (it's not like it's a big money issue for the NFL), in the Rourke case he has to pass waivers to go back to the PR again.
This means that is highly unlikely if Lawrence was out of the game and Beathard not moving the ball, that they'd risk an untested regular season QB in Rourke playing for several reasons:
1. if he shoots the lights out they've got a back up QB controversy that they don't need or want.
2. it makes it even riskier to get the QB safely back to the PR as someone might take him off waivers.

Lawrence played the whole game and was 28 of 50 for 257 yards, 3 TDs and 3 INTs and was sacked 4 times in a 31-27 loss.

The Jags offence looked lacking at times and it's not clear if the leg injury led to Trevor Lawrence missing a few passes or not.

Strange to go for two points by Jags.
Stupid rules for OT I assume led to Jags not kicking the extra point to give them 28 pts and potentially get the ball and tie with a FG.



How does this NFL OT rule many ANY sense?
Why I mention this is I hear from too many idiots that they dislike the CFL for the rouge on missed FGs here despite how we've seen kicks run from the back of the endzone for TDs in some of the most exciting plays in the game. In fact on long FGs from teams behind commentators often noted that with so and so there, if they miss, there's a big risk so teams punt for field position. CFL makes it a more tactically interesting game.

The exception: if the team that gets the ball first scores a touchdown on the opening possession.

It's like their elections, the Americans just don't like things to be equal for both teams.

OVERTIME RULES FOR NFL REGULAR SEASON
At the end of regulation, the referee will toss a coin to determine which team will possess the ball first in overtime. The visiting team captain will call the toss.
No more than one 10-minute period will follow a three-minute intermission. Each team must possess, or have the opportunity to possess, the ball.
The exception: if the team that gets the ball first scores a touchdown on the opening possession.
Sudden death play — where the game ends on any score (safety, field goal or touchdown) — continues until a winner is determined.
Each team gets two timeouts.
The point after try is not attempted if the game ends on a touchdown.
If the score is still tied at the end of the overtime period, the result of the game will be recorded as a tie.
There are no instant replay coach’s challenges; all reviews will be initiated by the replay official.

[Hambone]

Lawrence showed no ill effects while scrambling, rolling out and even taking some big hits in the first half but his throwing mechanics were clearly off. He completed just 11 of 22 passes for 100 yards, 1 TD and 2 interceptions and a QB rating of 40.0. He was outplayed by 38-year-old Cleveland QB Joe Flacco, who was picked up just 3 weeks ago and threw for 212 yards, 2 TDs and 1 INT in the half.

Agreed. Watching him scramble to avoid a possible safety at the end of the 3rd quarter there were no signs his ankle was bothering. He had to make 3 hard cuts in both directions and did so instinctively with no signs of anything bothering him. He did seem to float some balls which is a tendency if a QB is having troubles with his plant foot. 2 of the picks were overthrows where the DB had to get in behind the receiver to haul in the ball over the shoulder. The 2nd pick was clearly miscommunication between him and his receiver. He expected the receiver to look back into him coming off his break. He released the ball but the receiver kept on running without looking back. A couple other times his targets seemed to get turned around adjusting to the ball. On one particular throw he bounced it off the fingertips of a wide open Zay Jones. The zebras failed to see the Browns DB get a handful of Jones' jersey causing him to break stride just enough to not quite get there.

[Hambone]

Shouldn't dismiss the impacts of Cleveland's defense in this one. They have been stifling at home this year surrendering on 61 points in 6 home games going into today. Only Baltimore with 28 in a 28-3 win in Week 4 has put more on the board in Cleveland than the Jags did today. A graphic they showed part way thru the game showed some stats where the Browns at home are on pace to better some records that have stood for 30 and 40 years.

Jags were also hurting big time on the OL. They were down to effectively their 4th string LT with G Ezra Cleveland getting shifted over for his 1st start at T. He would be lost for the game in the 1st half forcing them to shift backup RG Blake Hance into the LT spot. Myles Garrett.was licking his chops.

[Hambone]

I'm convinced there is little to no upside to ever play your 3rd QB under NFL rules.
It's like their OT rule. Sounds good but the wrinkle with OT makes it ridiculous.

Instead of just having 3 QBs on their roster (it's not like it's a big money issue for the NFL), in the Rourke case he has to pass waivers to go back to the PR again.
This means that is highly unlikely if Lawrence was out of the game and Beathard not moving the ball, that they'd risk an untested regular season QB in Rourke playing for several reasons:
1. if he shoots the lights out they've got a back up QB controversy that they don't need or want.
2. it makes it even riskier to get the QB safely back to the PR as someone might take him off waivers.

For all intents in the NFL the 3rd QB is a break glass in case of emergency QB to be used only if the first 2 QBs are hurt. That's regardless of whether he's on the actual 48 man game roster as New England did this weekend or available as the 49th player as Rourke was. Partiots were the only team to dress 3 QBs. Both backups spent the game on the bench.

This week there were 15 games meaning 1440 players were dressed and available to play on the thirty 48 man game rosters. 61 of the 1440 were QBs. 23 of the 31 backup QBs didn't play. On the flip side only 16 of the 1379 non-QBs didn't see action. Unless they expanded the game roster to 49 carrying a 3rd QB on the 48 would only serve to add another 30 (for this week) backup QBs to spend the game on the bench. There's nothing stopping teams from dressing 3. They dress 2 because they see more value in having an extra positional player available for depth or special teams than having a 3rd QB they will not use unless desparate circumstances dictate it.

[Toppy Vann]

Lawrence showed no ill effects while scrambling, rolling out and even taking some big hits in the first half but his throwing mechanics were clearly off. He completed just 11 of 22 passes for 100 yards, 1 TD and 2 interceptions and a QB rating of 40.0. He was outplayed by 38-year-old Cleveland QB Joe Flacco, who was picked up just 3 weeks ago and threw for 212 yards, 2 TDs and 1 INT in the half.

Agreed. Watching him scramble to avoid a possible safety at the end of the 3rd quarter there were no signs his ankle was bothering. He had to make 3 hard cuts in both directions and did so instinctively with no signs of anything bothering him. He did seem to float some balls which is a tendency if a QB is having troubles with his plant foot. 2 of the picks were overthrows where the DB had to get in behind the receiver to haul in the ball over the shoulder. The 2nd pick was clearly miscommunication between him and his receiver. He expected the receiver to look back into him coming off his break. He released the ball but the receiver kept on running without looking back. A couple other times his targets seemed to get turned around adjusting to the ball. On one particular throw he bounced it off the fingertips of a wide open Zay Jones. The zebras failed to see the Browns DB get a handful of Jones' jersey causing him to break stride just enough to not quite get there.

That grab of the Jones' jersey did prevent the catch from my vantage point. How that got missed by refs was surprising.

[Toppy Vann]

Lawrence showed no ill effects while scrambling, rolling out and even taking some big hits in the first half but his throwing mechanics were clearly off. He completed just 11 of 22 passes for 100 yards, 1 TD and 2 interceptions and a QB rating of 40.0. He was outplayed by 38-year-old Cleveland QB Joe Flacco, who was picked up just 3 weeks ago and threw for 212 yards, 2 TDs and 1 INT in the half.

Agreed. Watching him scramble to avoid a possible safety at the end of the 3rd quarter there were no signs his ankle was bothering. He had to make 3 hard cuts in both directions and did so instinctively with no signs of anything bothering him. He did seem to float some balls which is a tendency if a QB is having troubles with his plant foot. 2 of the picks were overthrows where the DB had to get in behind the receiver to haul in the ball over the shoulder. The 2nd pick was clearly miscommunication between him and his receiver. He expected the receiver to look back into him coming off his break. He released the ball but the receiver kept on running without looking back. A couple other times his targets seemed to get turned around adjusting to the ball. On one particular throw he bounced it off the fingertips of a wide open Zay Jones. The zebras failed to see the Browns DB get a handful of Jones' jersey causing him to break stride just enough to not quite get there.

That grab of Jones' jersey missed by refs prevented the catch (from my vantage point on the sofa). Horrible missed call.

Basically, there's little likelihood Rourke will play this season given Lawrence's durability so when we see on X like Rourke could play it's little more than click bait.