Re: Official NFL Thread: 2014-2015 Season
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:23 pm
I found this interesting--in part because Steve Young is a bright guy (in addition, of course, to having been a great quarterback).
Steve Young: Coaches have told me RG3 doesn’t put in the time
Posted by Michael David Smith on November 18, 2014, 12:50 PM EST
Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young says he knows the problem with Robert Griffin III: He doesn’t work hard enough.
Young said on the Michael Kay Show that he has spoken with coaches who have worked with Griffin, and those coaches told him that Griffin simply doesn’t spend the long hours studying film that an NFL quarterback needs.
“I’ve talked to his previous coaches, people I really trust and admire, that know quarterbacks. He doesn’t put the time in,” Young said.
Young didn’t mention any of those “previous coaches” by name, but it’s not a leap to infer that he’s referring to Mike Shanahan, who was Washington’s head coach for Griffin’s first two seasons. Shanahan was the 49ers’ offensive coordinator from 1992 to 1994, when Young was having his three best seasons as the 49ers’ starting quarterback. Shanahan and Young have been close for years.
According to Young, it’s the mental side of the game that makes a good quarterback in the NFL, and Young believes that Griffin needs to spend more time developing the mental side of the game during the offseason.
“Success is really about expertise,” Young said. “May, June, July work, and going to school.”
Much like Griffin, Young was once an athletic quarterback who needed time to learn how to be a pocket passer. Young thinks it’s harder for great runners like Griffin to develop as passers because they always assume they can fall back on running if they need to.
“Guys that can use their legs, it’s like they’re not desperate. Guys who can’t use their legs are more desperate so they’ll put more time in,” Young said.
And according to Young, Griffin isn’t putting the time in. That’s what’s holding him back.
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RGIII's lack of hard work in the film room has shown up in his play this season--particularly in last Sunday's 27-7 loss to the woeful Bucs in Washington (well, strictly speaking Landover, Md), where he threw two interceptions. The best quarterbacks put a lot of time into game-film study. Probably the best example of this is Peyton Manning, but Russell Wilson also spends long hours in film study and game planning. I think Young has made a good point about the tendency for really mobile quarterbacks to fall back on their running ability, rather than mastering the mental aspects of the game. For those interested, here`s the recap of the Washington-Bucs game:
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201411160 ... e=boxscore
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For Seahawks`fans, it has seemed as though the injury situation couldn`t get worse...but it has: center Max Unger is out for a month with a high ankle sprain. As a result, the `Hawks have just signed Lemuel Jeanpierre from the Falcons`practice squad, a guy who filled in for Unger last year and played well. In addition, with nose tackle Brandon Mebane out, and his absence depressingly obvious in the Seahawks`inability to stop the run on Sunday against the Chiefs, they`ve signed DT Travian Robertson also from the Falcons`practice squad. Here`s more on these signings:
Seahawks sign Lemuel Jeanpierre, add Travian Robertson from Falcons practice squad
Posted by Curtis Crabtree on November 18, 2014, 10:21 PM EST
With starting center Max Unger set to miss close to a month due to a high-ankle sprain, the Seattle Seahawks re-signed center Lemuel Jeanpierre on Tuesday.
In addition, Seattle signed defensive tackle Travian Robertson off the Atlanta Falcons practice squad.
Seattle placed Jeanpierre on injured reserve with a neck injury in September and released him with an injury settlement. Due to league rules, Jeanpierre wasn’t eligible to re-sign with the Seahawks until this week. He’s been a free agent to the rest of the league for the last six weeks and had been on at least four visits to other teams before returning to the Seahawks.
Jeanpierre had served as Unger’s backup the last three seasons and started eight games over that span.
Seattle was essentially down to their fourth-string center in Patrick Lewis with Unger injured, Jeanpierre gone and Stephen Schilling on injured reserve.
Robertson was the Falcons seventh-round selection (249th overall) in the 2012 NFL Draft. He played in 12 combined games with four tackles (all solo) from 2012-13 before being released after training camp this year and signing to Atlanta’s practice squad on Aug. 31.
Robertson adds depth to Seattle’s defensive line after being gashed by Jamaal Charles and the Kansas City Chiefs in the running game last week without nose tackle Brandon Mebane.
The Seahawks released tackle Andrew McDonald and safety Steven Terrell to make room on the roster for Jeanpierre and Robertson.
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And on the light-hearted side, there`s this story about the Eagles-Packers game last Sunday. My theory is that Rodgers was chuckling about the Packers`throwback uniforms (which you can see in the picture in the full article linked below.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... amusement/
Eagles do not appreciate Aaron Rodgers’ amusement
Posted by Mike Florio on November 18, 2014, 5:49 PM EST
The Packers had plenty of fun on Sunday against the Eagles. The Eagles think they had too much fun.
Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rodgers allegedly laughed too much for the visiting team’s liking.
“Hell, yeah. That sh-t pissed me off,” linebacker Brandon Graham said, via Geoff Mosher of CSNPhilly.com. “I wanted to get him. But at the end of the day, shoot, he was doing his job. More power to him. I guess we would be laughing if we were sacking him.”
“[H]e was smirking,” cornerback Nolan Carroll added. “He’s always been like that. You’ve seen it many times. He’s just one of those guys that jokes on the field. Whatever you present to him, whatever you show him, it doesn’t surprise him much.”
There’s a simple solution for it. The Eagles could have shut him up by beating him.
“It’s just one of them things where you want to smack that smirk off his face,” Graham said. “But I mean they definitely came to play. I’ve got to take my hat off to him. That’s the first time I have ever seen that.
“We started talking about it toward the end. We were like, ‘He’s been laughing at us all day.’ He’s a good quarterback, man. I would love to see him in the playoffs.”
Apparently, Rodgers would love to see the Eagles in the playoffs, too.
Steve Young: Coaches have told me RG3 doesn’t put in the time
Posted by Michael David Smith on November 18, 2014, 12:50 PM EST
Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young says he knows the problem with Robert Griffin III: He doesn’t work hard enough.
Young said on the Michael Kay Show that he has spoken with coaches who have worked with Griffin, and those coaches told him that Griffin simply doesn’t spend the long hours studying film that an NFL quarterback needs.
“I’ve talked to his previous coaches, people I really trust and admire, that know quarterbacks. He doesn’t put the time in,” Young said.
Young didn’t mention any of those “previous coaches” by name, but it’s not a leap to infer that he’s referring to Mike Shanahan, who was Washington’s head coach for Griffin’s first two seasons. Shanahan was the 49ers’ offensive coordinator from 1992 to 1994, when Young was having his three best seasons as the 49ers’ starting quarterback. Shanahan and Young have been close for years.
According to Young, it’s the mental side of the game that makes a good quarterback in the NFL, and Young believes that Griffin needs to spend more time developing the mental side of the game during the offseason.
“Success is really about expertise,” Young said. “May, June, July work, and going to school.”
Much like Griffin, Young was once an athletic quarterback who needed time to learn how to be a pocket passer. Young thinks it’s harder for great runners like Griffin to develop as passers because they always assume they can fall back on running if they need to.
“Guys that can use their legs, it’s like they’re not desperate. Guys who can’t use their legs are more desperate so they’ll put more time in,” Young said.
And according to Young, Griffin isn’t putting the time in. That’s what’s holding him back.
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RGIII's lack of hard work in the film room has shown up in his play this season--particularly in last Sunday's 27-7 loss to the woeful Bucs in Washington (well, strictly speaking Landover, Md), where he threw two interceptions. The best quarterbacks put a lot of time into game-film study. Probably the best example of this is Peyton Manning, but Russell Wilson also spends long hours in film study and game planning. I think Young has made a good point about the tendency for really mobile quarterbacks to fall back on their running ability, rather than mastering the mental aspects of the game. For those interested, here`s the recap of the Washington-Bucs game:
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201411160 ... e=boxscore
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For Seahawks`fans, it has seemed as though the injury situation couldn`t get worse...but it has: center Max Unger is out for a month with a high ankle sprain. As a result, the `Hawks have just signed Lemuel Jeanpierre from the Falcons`practice squad, a guy who filled in for Unger last year and played well. In addition, with nose tackle Brandon Mebane out, and his absence depressingly obvious in the Seahawks`inability to stop the run on Sunday against the Chiefs, they`ve signed DT Travian Robertson also from the Falcons`practice squad. Here`s more on these signings:
Seahawks sign Lemuel Jeanpierre, add Travian Robertson from Falcons practice squad
Posted by Curtis Crabtree on November 18, 2014, 10:21 PM EST
With starting center Max Unger set to miss close to a month due to a high-ankle sprain, the Seattle Seahawks re-signed center Lemuel Jeanpierre on Tuesday.
In addition, Seattle signed defensive tackle Travian Robertson off the Atlanta Falcons practice squad.
Seattle placed Jeanpierre on injured reserve with a neck injury in September and released him with an injury settlement. Due to league rules, Jeanpierre wasn’t eligible to re-sign with the Seahawks until this week. He’s been a free agent to the rest of the league for the last six weeks and had been on at least four visits to other teams before returning to the Seahawks.
Jeanpierre had served as Unger’s backup the last three seasons and started eight games over that span.
Seattle was essentially down to their fourth-string center in Patrick Lewis with Unger injured, Jeanpierre gone and Stephen Schilling on injured reserve.
Robertson was the Falcons seventh-round selection (249th overall) in the 2012 NFL Draft. He played in 12 combined games with four tackles (all solo) from 2012-13 before being released after training camp this year and signing to Atlanta’s practice squad on Aug. 31.
Robertson adds depth to Seattle’s defensive line after being gashed by Jamaal Charles and the Kansas City Chiefs in the running game last week without nose tackle Brandon Mebane.
The Seahawks released tackle Andrew McDonald and safety Steven Terrell to make room on the roster for Jeanpierre and Robertson.
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And on the light-hearted side, there`s this story about the Eagles-Packers game last Sunday. My theory is that Rodgers was chuckling about the Packers`throwback uniforms (which you can see in the picture in the full article linked below.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... amusement/
Eagles do not appreciate Aaron Rodgers’ amusement
Posted by Mike Florio on November 18, 2014, 5:49 PM EST
The Packers had plenty of fun on Sunday against the Eagles. The Eagles think they had too much fun.
Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rodgers allegedly laughed too much for the visiting team’s liking.
“Hell, yeah. That sh-t pissed me off,” linebacker Brandon Graham said, via Geoff Mosher of CSNPhilly.com. “I wanted to get him. But at the end of the day, shoot, he was doing his job. More power to him. I guess we would be laughing if we were sacking him.”
“[H]e was smirking,” cornerback Nolan Carroll added. “He’s always been like that. You’ve seen it many times. He’s just one of those guys that jokes on the field. Whatever you present to him, whatever you show him, it doesn’t surprise him much.”
There’s a simple solution for it. The Eagles could have shut him up by beating him.
“It’s just one of them things where you want to smack that smirk off his face,” Graham said. “But I mean they definitely came to play. I’ve got to take my hat off to him. That’s the first time I have ever seen that.
“We started talking about it toward the end. We were like, ‘He’s been laughing at us all day.’ He’s a good quarterback, man. I would love to see him in the playoffs.”
Apparently, Rodgers would love to see the Eagles in the playoffs, too.