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Always said he was overrated but hey6) Javy Glatt looked out of his element at times to me tonight, especially against Cates. That will cure itself, likely.
I hope this is not a news flash to anyone. Like this all year. Even JJ said the lost wasnt all "his fault" and I agree.7) The Offence is simply not executing no matter what is called.
Really? Does Buck throw an interception at his opponent's 20 yard line because he thinks he can rifle a pass into a double covered receiver?midwestlion wrote:
And I do think this is Jarious' 1st start right? Calm down. Buck would not have done any better.IMO Especially if the RUN GAME isnt on.
No it's not. For a 30 year old he looked absolutely terrible. No touch, no sense, no second read. He locked onto a received and tried to will the ball to him. Brutal.Balraj wrote:To say that he has no football sense is going to far. Yes he's struggled but the only way he will get better is with game reps.
You tell what game has Buck started and finished and won. JJ was a victim of trying to scramble and win in 4th Qtr. All JJ should have done to match Bucks play is take his first read, not there, then scramble. Instead of JJ trying to force the ball. I dont think Buck has won a game by himself yet, couild be wrong. Im sure someone wil correct me though.But to sit here and say that JJ will improve with repeated starts and that "Buck would not have done better" is absurd.
Played a pretty good FULL game against Calgary last year and won. Beat Winnipeg as well. There are probably others.midwestlion wrote:You tell what game has Buck started and finished and won. JJ was a victim of trying to scramble and win in 4th Qtr. All JJ should have done to match Bucks play is take his first read, not there, then scramble. Instead of JJ trying to force the ball. I dont think Buck has won a game by himself yet, couild be wrong. Im sure someone wil correct me though.But to sit here and say that JJ will improve with repeated starts and that "Buck would not have done better" is absurd.
Yes. Jackson is terribleDo people have that big of a hard on for Buck that they want to completely trash Jarious in a game where our "brilliant coaching staff" chooses to run the ball 9 FRIGGIN' TIMES WITH THE CFL LEADING RUSHER?!
There were open receivers that were missed repeatedly, as identified elsewhere upthread. Regardless of the play calling, which, as was also stated upthread wasn't stellar, you have to hit guys that are open. That is your job as a QB.No Ordinary Joe wrote:Man, I can't believe what I'm reading in this thread. Do people have that big of a hard on for Buck that they want to completely trash Jarious in a game where our "brilliant coaching staff" chooses to run the ball 9 FRIGGIN' TIMES WITH THE CFL LEADING RUSHER?! Yeah, it's all JJ's fault. It's his fault that our play calling was abysmal and it's his fault that our defence decided to give Matt Dominguez a 7 yard head start on every play.
The pass sets up the run in the CFL, not the other way around. Again, if you're looking for a culprit in not getting help, refer to the area of the game plan that didn't play to the strengths of Jarius as a scrambler, as a rollout QB rather than a pocket QB, and when it did grossly overemphasized the short side of the field.JJ obviously didn't play well, but he wasn't really given a lot of help if you ask me. We talked earlier in the week about what we need to do in order to help Jarious out and almost everybody said to run the damn football. I don't know about you, but running the ball 9 times isn't really my idea of running the ball. We used play action which was nice to see, but when it's clear that the run isn't part of your game plan then how effective can you expect it to be?
Really, could you find another quarterback performance from this season where a Lions QB completed less than half of his passes? Or played a full game and threw three interceptions? And how many players are on the Riders 9 game list again?Remember that we were playing the 'Riders who are probably the 2nd best team in the league and a very tough team to play when fully healthy, not the easiest situation to be in for your 1st start. Jarious didn't look any worse than Dave and Buck have been this year and yet by the sounds of some people here you'd think that Jarious was the worst QB ever.
the intent of that simple play is to get lots of blocking in front of Simon since the rider D should be playing off and hope he can move it closer to midfield. If that happens you have chance to go for a play to put you in FG range, if not. you kill the clock and take a knee with no further damage done.Sir Purrcival wrote:I agree with this assessment. The most distressing part was how many times this guy under threw a 5 yard out. No touch is the right way to say it. He looked completely out of sync tonight and the abandonment of the run game didn't help the situation. The play calling tonight was befuddling at times. Why throw a hitch to Simon in the 2nd Q on your own 10 yard line with 20 seconds on the clock, only to kneel down the following play? A pass that could be picked when you are trying to run out the clock??? On the other hand, we have our loss and now maybe that can act as a catalyst for some change. It is hard to complain when you play poorly but still win. Well, today, we saw poor play and it resulted in a loss.TheLionKing wrote:With all due respect to all the Jarius Jackson fans out there, I'm not impressed by his performance tonight. On the positives he read the blitz and threw to the right receivers, and was able to scramble out of some sticky situation. On the negative he continues to demonstrate what he has demonstrated in his limited playing time. He continues to miss wide open receivers, either underthrowing and overthrowing. He has no touch on his passes. His passes were on a rope all night. Several times receivers had to go on their hand and knees to scoop up passes from the turf. A couple of his interceptions wouldn't have happened if he put a little air on his pass and let the receiver run under it, instead of gunning it in their.
repectfully disagree. The Leos haven't exploded on offense this year and the Rider D was strong. If Buck plays its a 3 point game that could go either way. With JJ it just made it easier for the Riders to hold a larger lead.sports & stuff----ric wrote:if bucks heaLthy, that game is a blow out! bUCK IS 10 TIMES THE QB THEN JACKSON.
COMPARING JACKSON TO PRINTERS WHO WAS THE CFL OUTSTANDING PLAYER AND ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING PLAYERS TO PLAY IN THE LEAGUE IN A WHILE IS LONG STRETCH
I don't think it's a blow out, but I don't think you guys win either. At a minimum, Buck converts probably both late drives for majors.wildthing wrote:repectfully disagree. The Leos haven't exploded on offense this year and the Rider D was strong. If Buck plays its a 3 point game that could go either way. With JJ it just made it easier for the Riders to hold a larger lead.sports & stuff----ric wrote:if bucks heaLthy, that game is a blow out! bUCK IS 10 TIMES THE QB THEN JACKSON.
COMPARING JACKSON TO PRINTERS WHO WAS THE CFL OUTSTANDING PLAYER AND ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING PLAYERS TO PLAY IN THE LEAGUE IN A WHILE IS LONG STRETCH
he may or may not have. but that also changes the entire dynamic of the game and the Riders do different things as well. the game would have played totally different start to finish so we will never really know what would have happened if Buck came incromartie wrote:I don't think it's a blow out, but I don't think you guys win either. At a minimum, Buck converts probably both late drives for majors.wildthing wrote:repectfully disagree. The Leos haven't exploded on offense this year and the Rider D was strong. If Buck plays its a 3 point game that could go either way. With JJ it just made it easier for the Riders to hold a larger lead.sports & stuff----ric wrote:if bucks heaLthy, that game is a blow out! bUCK IS 10 TIMES THE QB THEN JACKSON.
COMPARING JACKSON TO PRINTERS WHO WAS THE CFL OUTSTANDING PLAYER AND ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING PLAYERS TO PLAY IN THE LEAGUE IN A WHILE IS LONG STRETCH
