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Re: Race in Football

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:48 am
by bclions16
You are so over the top on this take of yours that this is bordering on the bizarre. Again, that is not what blitz said in his post. You really need to stop stretching this beyond what was said unless your objective is to drive him off this board.
It's exactly what he said. He detailed his very legitimate reasons for why he thinks JJ should start, but cited only Bucks skin colour as to why most fans want Buck. He went on to say 75% of fans would want JJ over BP if the QBs switched races. Blitz explained he chose based on football, and he explained that fans chose based on skin colour.

If you don't think he said that, I can show you were he did, but of course I can't show you his original post... because it got deleted.

Re: Race in Football

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:53 pm
by Canuck_4_Life
Robbie touched on the correlation of names on jerseys and their popularity, mentioning specifically Bryan Chiu. Due respect, outside of maybe Murphy and Jimenez, I've never known o-lineman's race to be an issue in relation to being able to identify with them.

Paris Jackson is part Japanese and black. Does that mean that I should be able to identify with him more because I'm also Japanese and yet at the same time, identify with him less because he's black and I'm not? Did that influence my decision to buy a PJack jersey? Not one iota. I like Paris, not only because we're both Asian but he's also a local boy and an phenomenal receiver. He, along with a lot of other Lions, have either recognized on their own accord, or have been influenced by Ackles and/or Buono that especially here in this market, getting your name and face out there are a key component to getting more people into the Giant Marshmellow.

Quick PJack related story. I was down at Cactus Club (Byrne Road/Marine Way) standing outside the restaurant waiting for my sister and brother in law. PJack walks up alone, approaches me and shakes my hand. We have a short non-related football chat and he wished my dad a Happy Father's Day.

For the record, my jersey collection goes as follows:
Barron Miles
Lyle Green
Brent Johnson
Paris Jackson
Alfred Jackson
Jason Clermont

Re: Race in Football

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:17 pm
by LFITQ
WTF??

Wow I just wasted 2 minutes of my life reading through (thank god I skimmed 99% of it) this thread. Can I ask for a mulligan?

This is 2008 right? Not 1808?

Re: Race in Football

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:58 am
by Robbie
Toppy Vann wrote:The CFL hasn't much used ethnic marketing and Wally himself it is not something he has considered. Brian Chui, a Vancouver guy would be a huge guy to have here and market to the Chinese community but he is not here and the Lions aren't interested in this type of marketing (according to WB).
Well, think when it come to race, marketing has some effect, but not too much. When it comes to race, I think the fan's can speak for themselves with or without marketing with regards to race. It doesn't take much to figure out that Chiu, Buono, and O'Mahony, and Singh have Chinese, Italian, Irish, and East Indian heritage, respectively. And most of us know the various Europeans in the NHL. If one wants to feel some affinity towards that person because of their race, then that's their own decision
Blitz wrote:At every other football position, based upon black athletes playing the game, you get a high representation.
You may have forgotten another position - the placekicker/punter.

Re: Race in Football

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:13 am
by sj-roc
Robbie wrote:You may have forgotten another position - the placekicker/punter.
That sounds like the makings of a headline at theonion.com : "NAACP decries lack of NFL opportunities for African American punters and placekickers".

Re: Race in Football

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:34 pm
by Robbie
After the 2004 Grey Cup and again after Super Bowl XLI, the media certain made it big point over the fact that Michael Clemons and Tony Dungy were the first Black coaches to win a championship.