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Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:44 pm

An embarrassment.

A debacle.

Ray sliced up our D.

Our O was hopeless.

STs as per usual.

We'll do this anyway.

A post-mortem on a season of futility.

Stats and comments coming.

Why bother? Because it is our franchise.
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Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:50 pm

Solomon breaks his record. Attaway, Sollie.
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Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:01 pm

Passing "attacks" ... Term used loosely.

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Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:03 pm

Elimimian is a true leader. Talented and smart. Lulay too. It was good to see Lulay come back and play well again.

As a franchise, we are where Toronto was last year. Hopefully the business can be figured out before free agency.

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Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:05 pm

Rushing attacks ...

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Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:08 pm

Called a blowout loss beforehand....only way to get this staff out

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Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:10 pm

Happy for Solomon. Met him post-practice one time, along with Jovan Olafioye. Me and Vic, at the bar, a few years back.

Both players very classy.


Sollie is a tackling machine. Team player. When he came back from the NFL I had some doubts. Those doubts vanished fast. He has been sensational. :thup:

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Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:13 pm

leo4life wrote:
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Called a blowout loss beforehand....only way to get this staff out
I doubt it makes a difference. There is no owner, no president, and probably no gm or coach.

I am climbing aboard the Ed Hervey bandwagon, but I guess we need an owner first.

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Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:16 pm

what we need is a famous bc hockey player, his teams owner, and a famous BC comedian, to buy the team,
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Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:18 pm

I'll drive Khari to the airport

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Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:19 pm

KnowItAll wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:16 pm
what we need is a famous bc hockey player, his teams owner, and a famous BC comedian, to buy the team,
I hope you’re not referring to Linden and Aquilini. I want Linden fired from the Canucks, and can’t wait for Aquilini to sell that team. Complete tire fire there. Stay far away from the Lions.
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Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:22 pm

Bouno backed his OC/DC before this game according to LU...🤡

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Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:23 pm

A shambles.

Like someone said, time to clean house. New owner. New General Manager. New Head Coach. New coaching staff. Some new personnel on the O Line. Some new personnel on the D Line.

Will it happen? LOL

This is almost as big a soap opera as Donald Trump, 24x7 news.

Will it happen? My hunch. Braley does not sell. He asks Wally to do one more year. Wally says yes. Much the same staff next year.

Regarding the specifics of this last game ...

Pass protection. Fail.

Pressure on Ray. Fail.

Tackling. Fail.

Zone defence. Fail.

Game planning. Fail.

Play calling. Fail.

Team readiness. Fail.

Fail in all respects.
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Jimmy Johnson's Game Keys: Protect the ball. Make plays.

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Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:37 pm

leo4life wrote:
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Bouno backed his OC/DC before this game according to LU...🤡
This is normal professional behavior. Can't throw them under the bus before the final meaningless game of the season at the end of a hall of fame career. No judgement on the coordinators.

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Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:52 pm

Post mortem. Appropriate thread title.

The discussion from players and commentators on the postgame show was the same stories we’ve heard all year: the Lions didn’t come out with intensity tonight, they didn’t execute, players failed to their assignments because they were trying to cover for someone else, the team lacked vereran leadership but it still has a core of talented veterans who want to come back next year.

All that is true to some extent, but as usual coaching and quarterbacking was the key. Ricky Ray dissected the Lions with his eyes before the snap and knew when he would have open receivers in the flat, on the backside and over the middle. It was easy pickings for a veteran quarterback who came into the game with a good game plan and executed it well.

Jonathon Jennings and his receivers were confused. He either threw into traffic or into open areas where there were no receivers. He showed none of the poise and quick decisiin-making that we saw last week and he didn’t seem to have an effective game plan. The only pass plays that worked were the short screens that the Lions rolled out last week, and the Argos did a good job of coming up to make tackles to limit the Lion gains. The only part of the Lions offence trhat showed early success was the inside running game to Johnson behind the strong blocking of Cody Husband and Charles Vaillancourt, but the Lions abandoned the run early and stayed with their ineffective passing game.

Manny Arceneaux played a strong game and bailed his team out with some tough catches but no one else on offence did much.

Defensively, I was counting Elimimian’s tackles and was happy to see him break the record. The defence was worn down and disheartened in the second half but Solly didn’t quit. He’s a great leader.

I was sorry to see Cody Husband get hurt at the end of the game. I hope it’s not serious and he is healthy for training camp. Al the starters on the offensive line are pending free agents. Husband and Hunter Steward are the core if that line and should be priority signings. Vaillancourt and Foucault both looked good in recent weeks. If the Lions can upgrade the two tackles, they should have a better O-line next year.

Defensively, the line remains a huge weakness. David Menard and Junior Luke got almost within an arm’s length of Ricky ray a couple of times but that was about it. I just don’t see any international talent worth bringing back. Farhan Lalji suggested the Lions need to bring in at least one proven veteran free agent for the offensive and defensive lines. I agree. Talent is hard to find. Without a few proven veteran internationals on the offensive and defensive lines, the Lions will continue to struggle.

And I hope Travis Lulay is back and healthy next year. Too much has been expected of Jennings too soon.
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