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WestCoastJoe
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Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:21 pm

I liked the offence, until our bubble burst.

We gave Jennings more time, with some adjustments. Quick passes as on the out to Manny for the first TD.

Manny played strong.

Shaq J showed remarkable speed and agility on his TD.

JJ24 is an underutilized, but very effective RB.

Although there was pressure on JJ10, he was only sacked once. There were many good pass protection blocks. I was going to post one by A Johnson. Maybe later.

We saw a screen pass and a swing pass. They tried to do some new stuff. JJ10 rolled out.

We were in good shape until Rainey picked up a ball he should have let go into the end zone. Then an ill-advised screen pass to Burnham, who looks like the wrong guy for that type of play. Defensive lapses in coverage or effort. A dropped TD pass. Onside kick, and the great fold up was underway.

Sometimes struggling teams just need an excuse to fold. And that is what we did.

IMO our defence is wrong in so many ways. Wrong INT D Line personnel. Very confused secondary. IMO Thompson should not be at Safety. We get nothing from that position, and it is not really his fault. He is athletic and should be able to contribute on the corner, or as a sub. We should have known our DB lineup coming from TC. But no, we have tinkered and tinkered. We also tinkered with an endless list of supposed rush ends.

Passive approach on D, which should be slow death. But for us, it is oftentimes quick, merciless death. Offences know what we will do and how we will do it. We do OK against the run, but that might be because we don't stop the pass. We do not get pressure on the QB. And that has to be Job 1 for the defence. It does not look like a priority of our philosophy. We would rather contain. Instead of getting containment, our overall pass defence is a sieve.

STs? Not special. Pedestrian. Predictable. Easily tricked. Vulnerabilities for all the world to see.

Is this an autopsy? Could be. If not quite, the patient is very ill.

And that brings us back to ownership, football management and coaching. It is far from state of the art. IMO ...

Business management is another, separate, huge issue.

I don't think it is an exaggeration to say the organization is in bad shape. Perhaps Braley thinks everything is fine. Ouch ...
John Madden's Team Policies: Be on time. Pay attention. Play like hell on game day.

Jimmy Johnson's Game Keys: Protect the ball. Make plays.

Walter Payton's Advice to Kids: Play hard. Play fair. Have fun.

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Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:18 pm

Blitz wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:39 pm
I watched the Edmonton game and they ran an excellent play. Reilly ran the option with the ability to pitch the football outside or throw the shovel pass inside. He went with the shovel pass and it went for a big gain. The last time we used the shovel pass was when Chap was here. I can't remember the last time we went with a quick pitch play.
I remember one, Blitz.

Grey Cup 2006. Buck Pierce comes in and pitches to Ian Smart, who goes around left end all the way to the end zone.

We've been saving it for a special occasion.

By the way, thank you for the continued great analysis, with your usual detail. :thup:
John Madden's Team Policies: Be on time. Pay attention. Play like hell on game day.

Jimmy Johnson's Game Keys: Protect the ball. Make plays.

Walter Payton's Advice to Kids: Play hard. Play fair. Have fun.

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Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:29 pm

Wally didnt' sign Williams to improve attendance. He seems to care less or he wouldn't shut the roof on nice days. He signed Williams for the same reason as he signed Sinkfield last season...to have a deep threat that would help stop defenses focusing on Arseneaux and Burnham.
If you want the defences to stop focusing on Arceneaux and Burnham, you need to throw deep to Williams. How often has that happened ?

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Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:34 pm

But the trouble is that those types of plays are not our default mindset. So, instead of continuing with what was successful we went back to same old.
That's been the mindset dating back to Chapdelaine. When something works, instead of keeping doing it, we stop and go back to the same conservative playcalling. Dumb coaching, keep beating yourself. :bang:

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Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:03 pm

Lions 2018
GM:Wally Bouno
HC/DC:Mark Washington/Wally Bouno
OC:Khari Jones/Wally Bouno
ST:Wally Bouno
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