I agree on all counts.WestCoastJoe wrote:Count me as a big Joe Smith fan. A guy that went his own way. He may never have had a conversation with Bobby Ackles. Who knows? But I can easily see the "snub" of the Ackles recognition night as the reason for Joe Smith's departure. All Joe Smith did was play hard. Clutch. Tough yardage. Breakaway yardage. Catching clutch passes. He was funny. He would wear glasses at practice, looking kind of like a mild-mannered bookkeeper, in his own world. LOL ... Great with the fans. I think his teammates loved him. Wally liked him also, it seems, until Joe did not show up that night.Toppy Vann wrote: Is Khalif not being re-signed by his former team just about belief in his effectiveness - not his motivation? It's too easy it seems to say not motivated. Als must see something. Sometimes in the SMS CFL it's about getting a cheaper guy.
I think the Joe Smith not motivated was a manufactured thing the fans came up with as there was no clear reason for him to be gone.
Geroy Simon - a guy known for very high standards like his model Milt Stegall was positive on this guy and if he was a guy not playing full out Simon would not have defended him after he left.
Wally was close to Bobby Ackles he says and it was a night to honour him and Smith sitting home might have been a factor. Possibly the number 1 reason to trade him might the Lions seeing this as a divisive move in the locker room - staying home that night - something that they'd not want to tolerate.
Sure Smith didn't gel with the Bombers HC Mike Kelly -and didn't stick but Kelly was a nut job.
Khalif is another different cat. He may even have some issues, in terms of emotions, and in how he processes information. But he is just fine in my books.
He was traded ostensibly due to no room in the backfield for two feature backs and we now had Stefan Logan (but who did he get? Charles Roberts from the nut job Wpg HC Mike Kelly). Then they decided to have plays for two feature backs. it was nuts.
But when the team doesn't say why the guy is really gone we fans fill in the blanks and it becomes speculation and often we get it wrong. "Wally knows best" has been a fan favourite saying too when we fans don't really know what happened.
To me a football player with a season like 2007 doesn't become a bad player in the next season - it just doesn't happen unless they're hurt.
This is from Ackles book and a sampler on Amazon and lot of Joe Smith here:
http://goo.gl/CKcgKR
This story is about machinations over Wally not bringing back Carl Kidd and Ryan Thelwell and Antonio Warren earlier but how Joe Smith got 3 TDs in each of his first two games!
Q&A with Joe Smith:Buono also realized that runningb ack Antonio Warren just wasn’t getting it done on the ground a few games into last season, so he went out and signed NFL Europe MVP Joe Smith. In Smith’s first game he rambled on for three touchdowns, and then achieved the same feat again in his next game.
https://prosportscott.wordpress.com/cat ... roy-simon/Q: You were the CFL’s leading rusher last season. Is there anything you want to achieve in ’08 to take it to the next level?
JS: “On a personal level, I want to lead the league in rushing again this year – I think that’s the goal of any running back. As a team, I want to see us become the best that we can be. There are a lot of talented players here and I know that we can win the Grey Cup this season. As far as the end of last season is concerned, what’s done is done, and I’m focused and ready to go in 2008 and I know that’s the feeling among my teammates as well. I’m very excited to see what we can do this year – I know there are great things in store for us.”
I was interested and found my post on this thread ...lol:And 2007 and Joe Smith here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14273
League leaders
Postby B.C.FAN » Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:43 pm
In addition to the Lions finishing first overall, a number of individuals led the league in various statistical categories, including Joe Smith in rushing and Geroy Simon in receiving. Congratulations to the following league leaders, according to cfl.ca:
Rushing: Joe Smith 1510 yards
Touchdowns: Joe Smith 19
Rushing touchdowns: Joe Smith 18
Receiving: Geroy Simon 1308 yards
Receiving by a Canadian (and third overall): Jason Clermont 1158 yards
Combined yards: Ian Smart 2440
Punt return yards: Ian Smart 912
Kickoff return yards: Ian Smart 1228
Interceptions: Ryan Phillips 12
Sacks: Cam Wake 16
Defensive tackles by a lineman: Cam Wake 72
Forced fumbles: Brent Johnson 4 (tie)
Blocked kicks: Barron Miles 2
Re: Glen Suitor has Joe Smith traded to Argos
Postby Toppy Vann » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:24 am
I like Joe Smith but realize the Lions system won't allow two feature Import backs.
What is ironic is that the Lions apparently signed Joe to big bucks to lock him up and now it appears this very contract is helping them to decide to go cheaper. Maybe the HC and the GM of the Lions need better coordination. Why would the GM of the Lions give a guy the big bucks if the coach is determined to deploy a scat back type runner who can improvise on the vanilla running plays and scheming that the Lions use? WB is a good football coach but sometimes you have to wonder.
I guess when Chapdelaine returned it was bound to be the end of Joe Smith as many posters here predicted much like when Chapdelaine headed to Edmonton it was pretty clear Antonio Warren would never play a down in an Esks uniform.