Is Travis Lulay done? - moved to the 6 game IL on 6/27/14

[Shi Zi Mi]

For anyone watching the TSN season preview (followed the top 50), I'm sure their mouths fell open when Matt Dunigan opined that Travis Lulay's career is over !!

In his opinion, the shoulder injuries are not something that Lulay can come back from.

On this board, I've stated my opinion that Lulay is probably heading for early retirement if he sustains another injury to that shoulder......but it was surprising, even to me, that Dunigan suggested that it is already at that point.

[notahomer]

How was the CFL season preview show? I usually faithfully catch it but I missed it. I'm busy tomorrow night too so I'm missing the kickoff game too....

Oh well, spending a Saturday afternoon watching a West Division matchup between the Esks & Lions?

sounds good to me....

(BTW, my vote is no, I just think it needs more time. For his sake, hope that is all it needs.... )

[Rammer]

For anyone watching the TSN season preview (followed the top 50), I'm sure their mouths fell open when Matt Dunigan opined that Travis Lulay's career is over !!

In his opinion, the shoulder injuries are not something that Lulay can come back from.

On this board, I've stated my opinion that Lulay is probably heading for early retirement if he sustains another injury to that shoulder......but it was surprising, even to me, that Dunigan suggested that it is already at that point.

Having had a shoulder injury, I am going to suggest that he doesn't recoup enough from the injury to really use it until one year after the repairs. I often saw this stated and can attest that it was the one year mark before I felt comfortable enough to use it full out, still without full results though. I remember suggesting that Lulay's shoulder hadn't recovered prior to the injury, with the often overthrown pass, an indication that everything was doing what his mind said, except for the shoulder.

I do find it humourous that Dunigan made that suggestion, afterall he certainly didn't adhere to media suggestions of him being done. He above everybody else should realize that the dream to compete is on players hard drive. So I expect Lulay to make another go of it, and his shoulder will tell the real tale.

[TheLionKing]

Way too early to suggest Lulay's career may be over.

[DanoT]

Dunigan is not privy to any special medical info so it is strictly a guess on his part as to the extent of the recovery.

So if I'm guessing I will go along with Rammer and say it will take a year from the date of the operation to be pain free and reasonably strong and another 6 months for the scar tissue to completely heal.

[KnowItAll]

For anyone watching the TSN season preview (followed the top 50), I'm sure their mouths fell open when Matt Dunigan opined that Travis Lulay's career is over !!

In his opinion, the shoulder injuries are not something that Lulay can come back from.

On this board, I've stated my opinion that Lulay is probably heading for early retirement if he sustains another injury to that shoulder......but it was surprising, even to me, that Dunigan suggested that it is already at that point.

Having had a shoulder injury, I am going to suggest that he doesn't recoup enough from the injury to really use it until one year after the repairs. I often saw this stated and can attest that it was the one year mark before I felt comfortable enough to use it full out, still without full results though. I remember suggesting that Lulay's shoulder hadn't recovered prior to the injury, with the often overthrown pass, an indication that everything was doing what his mind said, except for the shoulder.

I do find it humourous that Dunigan made that suggestion, afterall he certainly didn't adhere to media suggestions of him being done. He above everybody else should realize that the dream to compete is on players hard drive. So I expect Lulay to make another go of it, and his shoulder will tell the real tale.

not too many QBs can be compared to Dunigan when it comes to playing through and after injuries.

[B.C.FAN]

I was surprised the Lions put Lulay on the one-game injured list instead of the six-game list to start the season. He has said that doctors told him his shoulder won't be 100% recovered for surgery until November. With or without surgery, players are more likely to reinjure a shoulder that has been hurt before. If he sustains another shoulder injury before this one is completely healed, he's done.

[TheLionKing]

I was surprised the Lions put Lulay on the one-game injured list instead of the six-game list to start the season. He has said that doctors told him his shoulder won't be 100% recovered for surgery until November. With or without surgery, players are more likely to reinjure a shoulder that has been hurt before. If he sustains another shoulder injury before this one is completely healed, he's done.

Same here. Lions would be wise to let Lulay take as much time as necessary to heal his injured shoulder. There is no urgency to rush him back.

[WestCoastJoe]

It would be a shame if he is done.

Medical procedures do make advances, however. So who knows?

[jmc24]

Dunigan said what he said for shock value....Truth is , nobody knows...Like other posters have said , another injury to that shoulder and it's curtains...Hope not...Here's my shock value comment....He comes back in a month or so and lights it up ...We can hope right?

[Blue In BC]

Would it really surprise anybody if this injury / surgery became career ending? I hope not but it's not beyond the possibility either.

Good luck Travis.

[MexicoLionFan]

I posted a lengthy piece during the offseason about my experience with the rotator cuff/shoulder reconstruction surgery, and then trying to play afterwards...I can't remember under which thread...myself, Rammer and someone else here all had a similar procedure and can all tell you that its tough to throw accurately after the procedure due to loss of motion. It also hurts a lot, but football players can play through pain, and can be medicated, so its really the range of motion issue...and this isn't the first time for that same shoulder with Lulay. This is why I suggested last week that the Lions might opt to give Lulay the WHOLE YEAR to re hab the shoulder and get the inflammation out of it. If Lulay can throw without inflammation, then he can play...and I was told by my Korean born specialist that in a purrfect world it would be a 2 year process...a full year to rest it and work on range of motion (without throwing) and then a 2nd year to strengthen the joint and begin throwing.

The Lions have been blessed with the addition of Kevin Glenn, who while an older player, plays a position where a guy without injury can play into his 40's. And Kevin Glenn's style is such that he doesn't take very many hits and he sees the field really well and has a quick release. So Glenn could be our QB, if necessary, for a NUMBER of years...this isn't just a one year, stop gap, addition.

So with Lulay, while Dunigan may have gone overboard with his statement, the fact is the odds are AGAINST Lulay from coming back and playing at a high level. This is why myself and others have watched the backup QB battle so closely this preseason, as Beck and/or Partridge could very well be the future of Lion's QBing...

[Rammer]

I was surprised the Lions put Lulay on the one-game injured list instead of the six-game list to start the season. He has said that doctors told him his shoulder won't be 100% recovered for surgery until November. With or without surgery, players are more likely to reinjure a shoulder that has been hurt before. If he sustains another shoulder injury before this one is completely healed, he's done.

I suspect that the Lions will afford Lulay some time if Glenn gets the job done, and then they could retroactively put Lulay on the 6 game IL.

[Toppy Vann]

I took the view at the time of the incident that he was foolhardy to take that hit and recall taking a lot of heat for that view as the consensus was that was how a good QB plays.

I feel a QB plays hard and smart and stays in the game for the good of the team and avoids hits that could be taken on the next play by the running back or a REC.

[MexicoLionFan]

Hey, and remember this, the BIGGEST help for Lulay's shoulder was the hiring of Khari Jones...he has a system that protects the QB, and Khari is the best QB coach in the league...who better to help Travis improve his overall game, including down field reads. I think that Lulay can have a career re birth in BC, but not until that shoulder heals properly...the doctors are saying November...the Lions should not think about activating Lulay until Oct. IMO.