I honestly don't know Ravi. No doubt the Whitecaps thing has impacted the Lions but I can't imagine it being to that extent. Maybe it cost them 1000 STs but I doubt any more. Perhaps the temporary relocation to Empire forced some to drop their season tickets at the time due to various factors brought on by the location with not all coming back on board later. Again whatever impact that was would be marginal. Maybe it's the unique circumstances of two of Ackles eras that cause us to mistakenly interpret them as the norm with times like now being the aberration. Perhaps it's the opposite. For the most part BC attendance has followed the ebbs and flows of the club's record.Ravi wrote:Interesting perspective from Hambone and B.C.Fan. If we take ticket prices out of the equation, how can one explain that season tickets are at only 15k in a Grey Cup-hosting year? Ackles did get season ticket sales up to 24k a few years ago in the old B.C. Place. What happened to those 9k season ticket holders? Did they all become Whitecaps' season ticket holders instead? Could those 9k all have HDTV now and watch the games on there? What is (are) the reason(s) for a fairly significant attendance decline in B.C.?
In BC's first 8 years under Ackles (75-82) attendance bounced up and down like a yo-yo with 1977 (Year 1 under Rapp) and 1981 being the high points not surprisingly as they were the only double digit win seasons for BC between their 1964 Grey Cup championship and their move into BC Place. All things Lions were wonderful again with the first 4 years in BCP showing averages over 42000. 1986's 46638 is the clubs all-time best year, and Ackles last as GM I believe. After the usual new stadium honeymoon obviously augmented by the first consistently competitive BC squad in 2 decades the slide started.
It was a steady slide pretty much from 1987 through to 1996 with the one wonderful full season of Doug Flutie in 1991 where attendance climbed back up over 40K for the first time since 1986. One year later Flutie was in Calgary and attendance dropped a whopping 40% or 15K/game. Smooth move Pez. Attendance again yo-yoed between 1997 and Ackles return in 2002. Even then it dropped 4300 in his first year versus 2001 which again isn't surprising. No way he was going to turn that ship around in the first year. The TSN turning point was when he hired Buono with Wally in turn landing Dickenson. No doubt Bob was re-connecting with things in the community. However like the good Rapp years, the Matthews era and the magical Flutie year the on-field product was driving the marketing bus as much as marketing strategy. After a 3 year climb after Buono's arrival attendance had more or less plateaued and bounced up and down a bit. 2012 & 2013 were both better than the first 3 years of Bob's final era. So far this year is down 3300 on last year's average but only around 1500 down from the first 3 games of 2013. The best year under Ackles was sadly 2008 the same year he passed. It was also coming off the Lions best regular season in franchise history. The following year 2009 would be the start of back to back 8-10-0 seasons, coincidentally the first losing seasons since Bob had returned. Through the 2002-08 years the Ackles influence was felt they rose from 18507 in Yr 1 to 34083 in 2008. Overall average was 28457 which was 147 more than last season's average.