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I think Esks interest in Boyd depends a bit on how Messum is doing with his tryout in the NFL.
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Eskimos have signed boyd
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Can anyone say Maas/Davis. Completely suspicious.
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Great call James, this is absolutely the case...only in the CFL...
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DanoT wrote:I think Esks interest in Boyd depends a bit on how Messum is doing with his tryout in the NFL.
Messam is injured, it may suggest with the signing of Boyd, it is long term.

Plus it does lead us to speculate on Tillman's words of waiting until later in the season to review the trade. The CFL closed the option of 'delayed' trades from happening, but this seems to fall into that category.
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DanoT wrote:I think Esks interest in Boyd depends a bit on how Messum is doing with his tryout in the NFL.
Messam is injured, it may suggest with the signing of Boyd, it is long term.

Plus it does lead us to speculate on Tillman's words of waiting until later in the season to review the trade. The CFL closed the option of 'delayed' trades from happening, but this seems to fall into that category.
And President Bush and his brother or was it his cousin took down the World Trade Center. It was an inside job.

President Obama was not born in the USA and who cares what the birth certificates, newspaper announcements of his birth and attending nurses and doctors all say.

President Kennedy was killed by the guy who popped out and back into the manhole not the guy in the book depository (Oswald) or the phantom from the grassy knoll. My fav is the one from the manhole so I'm believing that one.

They never landed on the moon but on a set in NASA.

They just did the same thing and faked this Mars trip with Curiosity. Notice how they always show some grainy photo and then revert to the models? Exactly.... another fraud exposed.

I don't just know how these simple conspiracies don't get solved when it doesn't take football fans 5 minutes to figure out the dumping of Cory Boyd was planned at the time of the Ricky Ray trade. Of course the Esks decided it was good to take all that heat for the trade and waiting and hoping and praying the Boyd wouldn't get hurt in the first 6 games. I am surprised it took 10 hours of risky time to complete the trade (err..umm.... I mean sign the guy to a contract.)

Yes, the clue and we missed it when ET kept saying judge the trade in November.

Of course Mr. Braley had to be in on the fix too as team owner. He had to know that Boyd was to be part of the deal. They couldn't lie to the owner of the team who would have been apprised of such a deal. If they did lie to the owner (very risky) what might the owner be thinking now if the Esks got better and knocked out his other team in the West for a GC berth?

The problem with conspiracy theories is that common sense just seems to screw things up.

Why the ESKS signed Boyd:
“We only have Hugh Charles,” Reed said. “We don’t have anyone else available on our roster. Calvin McCarty, due to the injury to Matty Bertrand, is asked to play more fullback.

And I found another conspiracy. Clue dropped by Kavis Reed and that was how Messam like Boyd ended up in Edmonton. Hmmm... More shenigans it seems.

[quote]In many ways, the situation also mirrors how Messam came to Edmonton from the B.C. Lions late in training camp last year. [/quote]

Let's ignore the history of Kavis Reed and second chance folks like Messam. This is all conspiracy stuff.
Reed has a history in his coaching career of successfully working with players who come to teams with bad reputations. Reed, general manager Eric Tillman and offensive co-ordinator Marcus Crandell spoke with Boyd and were comfortable with bringing him in. Reed also spoke with quarterback Steven Jyles, who played with Boyd in Toronto last year and got an understanding of the running back’s personality.
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The Ricky Ray trade doesn't seem so lopsided now :tease:
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Toppy Vann wrote:
And President Bush and his brother or was it his cousin took down the World Trade Center. It was an inside job.

President Obama was not born in the USA and who cares what the birth certificates, newspaper announcements of his birth and attending nurses and doctors all say.

President Kennedy was killed by the guy who popped out and back into the manhole not the guy in the book depository (Oswald) or the phantom from the grassy knoll. My fav is the one from the manhole so I'm believing that one.

They never landed on the moon but on a set in NASA.

They just did the same thing and faked this Mars trip with Curiosity. Notice how they always show some grainy photo and then revert to the models? Exactly.... another fraud exposed.
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I don't suspect a conspiracy in the Ricky Ray trade.

But, Toppy, I do still suspect one in the assassination of JFK. :wink:

Not just a lone gunman. And not Oswald at all. The CIA, yes. The Dulles brothers, yes. The grassy knoll, yes.
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Anyone who thinks this is part of the Ray/Jyles trade isn't thinking things thru. What would be the advantage to the Esks not getting Boyd at training camp and having to wait 6 games into the season? There is none, so Esks wouldn't have initiated this part of the deal and likely would have insisted on having Boyd from the start of the year. It's not like Argos had any leverage here as they were the ones giving up the lesser QB for the better QB.

So then in order for this conspiracy theory to work there must a motivation or advantage for Argos to keep Boyd for the first 6 games but not the entire season. I can't think of any. They don't get Boyd for the foul weather fall games or playoffs, they now must go with a back up RB in Klacket who got some touches last year but none with the new RR lead, Milanovich designed, offence this season or they bring in an NFL cut who now hasn't the advantage of training camp.

If Boyd were part of the trade, then it would have been best for Argos to get to keep him all season or release him to the Esks before the season started.

Here is another flaw in the conspiracy theory: If Boyd had been put on waivers, Esks as the first place team would get the last opportunity in the league to claim Boyd. If Boyd were released without going on waivers, i assume it is a free for all as to which teams sign him first so Esks would not be guaranteed to get Boyd. So for it to be a conspiracy there has to be a way to assure in advance that Esks get Boyd. There wasn't.

OTOH, they still pump recorded crowd noise into BC Place Stadium and the world is flat isn't it?
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WestCoastJoe wrote: But, Toppy, I do still suspect one in the assassination of JFK. :wink:

Not just a lone gunman. And not Oswald at all. The CIA, yes. The Dulles brothers, yes. The grassy knoll, yes.
I would suggest a visit to Dallas to see how small that area is. An expert marksman could more than reasonably have acted alone.

One could argue this was dubious, but not a conspiracy or an outright fraud ala Troy Davis.
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Coach Milanovich has intimated but not actually stated, that Boyd's ineffectiveness was in blocking and pass receiving so the sop for most teams would be to bench Boyd and play his back up, not to outright release the player. What if the back up has a bad game? Klacket has had fumble issues in the past and it is a little early for NFL cuts to be available. A game sitting on the bench might have given Boyd a minor attitude adjustment and turned Boyd into a much better blocker and receiver in future games.

I'm with Milt Steigel on this one: There is something serious going on off field with Boyd that we don't know about.

Rob Murphy has tweeted some negative comments about Boyd and there seems to be a not very good relationship with some teammates and former teammate like Murphy. Granted Murph is a loud mouth, but as a former player there is a lot more to tweet about than a player. Where there is smoke, there is fire; something is going on here other than football skills.
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And he lands in..Edmonton, essentially Ray for Boyd+Jyles

Which would be a much better trade, of course it wasn't a trade but it did work out that way.
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WestCoastJoe wrote: But, Toppy, I do still suspect one in the assassination of JFK. :wink:

Not just a lone gunman. And not Oswald at all. The CIA, yes. The Dulles brothers, yes. The grassy knoll, yes.
I would suggest a visit to Dallas to see how small that area is. An expert marksman could more than reasonably have acted alone.

One could argue this was dubious, but not a conspiracy or an outright fraud ala Troy Davis.
I was in Dallas in 1968 and saw what you mean but this video is now proof that Lee Harvey Oswald was at the movies the entire time of the assassination as he was not needed. The science is in the first part but the key to the man hole theory begins at 7:50 min:

Here is actual footage of the guy leaving the manhole

Anyone know what WestCoastJoe looks like. He's hinting he knows something just Eric Tillman hinted when he said to wait to evaluate the trade of Ricky Ray.

I don't believe the facts in this site (below) because they are using the actual evidence accepted by the police, FBI and the Warren Commission. Ergo it is the fruit of the poison tree and must be false despite being more plausible than the manhole video.

http://www.timcomm.com/JFK_3-Shot_Mystery.html

This certainly has nothing to do with the Cory Boyd signing:
The running game with Hugh Charles, who might be a better return specialist than a full-time starting running back because of his diminutive size, hasn't matched up to what Messam did. The Eskimos have also had injuries on their offensive line, though that has been a problem in the past.
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