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Questions heading into Training Camp

Postby TheLionKing » Thu May 17, 2012 12:37 am

As defending Grey Cup Champions the Lions have fewer question marks heading into training camp than the other teams. The questions maks for me are:

i) Is Mike Reilly ready to take the next step to be a backup to Lulay ?

ii) Have the Lions found a replacement for Brent Johnson ?

iii) Have the Lions found a replacement for Solomon Eliminian ?
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Re: Questions heading into Training Camp

Postby WestCoastJoe » Thu May 17, 2012 2:24 am

TheLionKing wrote:As defending Grey Cup Champions the Lions have fewer question marks heading into training camp than the other teams. The questions maks for me are:

i) Is Mike Reilly ready to take the next step to be a backup to Lulay ?

ii) Have the Lions found a replacement for Brent Johnson ?

iii) Have the Lions found a replacement for Solomon Eliminian ?


Will Benny be effective as a Head Coach?

Will he be anywhere near as good as Wally as a spokesperson for the team and league?

Will Benny and JC play attacking football or will they tighten up and play it safe?

Will Stubler flourish as DC under Benny and Wally?

Will we go 4-3 D all the way? Or mix in 3-4?

Just one NI D Lineman suiting up, Westerman? Do we have a plan to acquire another one before season opening?

Can Steven Doege become that guy? Eventually?

Leonard or Bighill for MLB? Or a new guy?
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Re: Questions heading into Training Camp

Postby cromartie » Thu May 17, 2012 8:40 am

I'll shake the magic 8 ball:

Reilly: Yes.

Brent Johnson replacement: Great guy, but in his later years he looked a bit human aside from occasional flashes, so yes.

Replacement for Sol E: Difficult to replace someone who was that good of a hitter, but Leonard should be about 80% or so of Sol E.

Benny's effectiveness as Head Coach: Yes. In a different way. Much more involved than Wally was and a bit more of a player's coach.

Being as good of a spokesman as Wally will take some time. Winning is the best spokesman.

This team will attack. Benny's biggest test may be breaking JC of his crutches if he reverts to them.

Stubler should flourish. He's in the right role.

Probably more 3-4 than 4-3 because:
the odds of finding another quality NI D lineman aren't good.
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Re: Questions heading into Training Camp

Postby Shi Zi Mi » Thu May 17, 2012 9:02 am

Biggest concern for me is whether Chapdelaine will listen to a younger Benevides.......or will his arrogance win out?........If he chooses to listen, we will see similar offense to what won us a cup in 2011.

As for 4-3 vs 3-4, I believe that last year proved that the 4-3 (with a six man rotation, 5 import, 1 non-import) made our secondary a LOT BETTER........even with the loss of Brent Johnson and Aaron Hunt, IMO, with Westerman, Henley, White, et al , we still have the horses to effectively do the same in 2012.
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Re: Questions heading into Training Camp

Postby DanoT » Thu May 17, 2012 10:41 am

I'm looking for both the GM and HC to flourish.

Rarely has a rookie HC had such a strong roster and coaching staff and I am looking for him to really assert himself.

Wally, with less day to day details to deal with should emerge as an even better GM than in the past. I look for him to become a an even better talent evaluator and a great capoligist. The team has already had a fantastic off season, at least on paper.

But, what is this I keep reading about Wally being a great spokesman," y'know", "at the end of the day", "y'know", I just don't know about that one.
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Re: Questions heading into Training Camp

Postby WestCoastJoe » Thu May 17, 2012 11:27 am

DanoT wrote:
But, what is this I keep reading about Wally being a great spokesman," y'know", "at the end of the day", "y'know", I just don't know about that one.


Wally does have his pet phrases. When Wally arrived here in 2003, Dan Russell made fun of it. But pet phrases have nothing to do with the content of what he says, how he says it, and how he shows respect for teams, staff and players in the words he chooses.

He has always been a statemanlike representative of the Lions (and the Stampeders before that) and of the CFL itself. He supports minor football. He is gracious in his press conferences. He does have a personal, natural charm which helps him.

His press conferences are respectful and relatively generous with information.

He does not disparage other teams. He has largely been complimentary of his players, even when they have played poorly, or have been in trouble. One can see the respect he has earned from professional football people and much of the media.

"Great spokesman"? I'll stand by that.
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Re: Questions heading into Training Camp

Postby sj-roc » Thu May 17, 2012 12:04 pm

WestCoastJoe wrote:
DanoT wrote:
But, what is this I keep reading about Wally being a great spokesman," y'know", "at the end of the day", "y'know", I just don't know about that one.


Wally does have his pet phrases. When Wally arrived here in 2003, Dan Russell made fun of it. But pet phrases have nothing to do with the content of what he says, how he says it, and how he shows respect for teams, staff and players in the words he chooses.

He has always been a statemanlike representative of the Lions (and the Stampeders before that) and of the CFL itself. He supports minor football. He is gracious in his press conferences. He does have a personal, natural charm which helps him.

His press conferences are respectful and relatively generous with information.

He does not disparage other teams. He has largely been complimentary of his players, even when they have played poorly, or have been in trouble. One can see the respect he has earned from professional football people and much of the media.

"Great spokesman"? I'll stand by that.

In short, he generally doesn't come off like John Tortorella when he deals with the media.
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Re: Questions heading into Training Camp

Postby WestCoastJoe » Thu May 17, 2012 12:55 pm

sj-roc wrote:
WestCoastJoe wrote:Wally does have his pet phrases. When Wally arrived here in 2003, Dan Russell made fun of it. But pet phrases have nothing to do with the content of what he says, how he says it, and how he shows respect for teams, staff and players in the words he chooses.

He has always been a statemanlike representative of the Lions (and the Stampeders before that) and of the CFL itself. He supports minor football. He is gracious in his press conferences. He does have a personal, natural charm which helps him.

His press conferences are respectful and relatively generous with information.

He does not disparage other teams. He has largely been complimentary of his players, even when they have played poorly, or have been in trouble. One can see the respect he has earned from professional football people and much of the media.

"Great spokesman"? I'll stand by that.


In short, he generally doesn't come off like John Tortorella when he deals with the media.


LOL That had crossed my mind when I was blogging. Tortorella could be a spokesman for Anger Management Anonymous, as the before picture. "Do you have days when you feel like this guy? Well then, Anger Management Anonymous is here to help."

He is almost funny, except it is Hell for the reporters. I expect they do not even want to ask him anything, but have to in order to get some kind of quote. It would be funny if at one of his "conferences" no one asked anything. He could sit there for one minute, no one asks, and he gets up and leaves. It is pretty much like that anyway.
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Re: Questions heading into Training Camp

Postby Tighthead » Thu May 17, 2012 1:17 pm

WCJ, I can't believe Dan took cheapshots, and if he did I can't imagine him recycling his material. He is very fairminded and likes to keep his material fresh. #circustime #WHL #houseradio
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Re: Questions heading into Training Camp

Postby WestCoastJoe » Thu May 17, 2012 1:26 pm

Tighthead wrote:WCJ, I can't believe Dan took cheapshots, and if he did I can't imagine him recycling his material. He is very fairminded and likes to keep his material fresh. #circustime #WHL #houseradio


Tighthead, back at that time, 2003, I used to listen to Russell. He did make fun of Wally and his pet phrases. He used to count how many times Wally would say "as it were," "at the end of the day," et cetera. (I have to admit we did the same thing in school with certain teachers).

Wally still has his pet phrases, but in my opinion has gotten much better in his public speaking. I think when he got here he was also kind of unsettled after the Calgary business with Feterik and Fateri, et cetera.
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Re: Questions heading into Training Camp

Postby cromartie » Thu May 17, 2012 2:05 pm

WestCoastJoe wrote:
Tighthead wrote:
Tighthead, back at that time, 2003, I used to listen to Russell. .


So when exactly was Russell made aware that Vancouver had a football team. 2002?
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Re: Questions heading into Training Camp

Postby WestCoastJoe » Thu May 17, 2012 2:07 pm

cromartie wrote:
WestCoastJoe wrote:
Tighthead wrote:
Tighthead, back at that time, 2003, I used to listen to Russell. .


So when exactly was Russell made aware that Vancouver had a football team. 2002?


LOL Well, I haven't listened to Russell since 2003, but I do recall that he did not have much/anything good to say about the CFL or the Lions at that time.
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Re: Questions heading into Training Camp

Postby TheLionKing » Thu May 17, 2012 4:44 pm

sj-roc wrote:
In short, he generally doesn't come off like John Tortorella when he deals with the media.


Thank God. I'm surprised Bettman tolerate Tortorella's antics
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Re: Questions heading into Training Camp

Postby cromartie » Thu May 17, 2012 8:35 pm

WestCoastJoe wrote:LOL Well, I haven't listened to Russell since 2003, but I do recall that he did not have much/anything good to say about the CFL or the Lions at that time.


With apologies to one of our fellow posters, getting off of 'NW, whose lead sports voice basically doesn't even acknowledge the existence of the league and is, at best, incompetent in discussing it on those rare occasions that he does, was one of Ackles' best decisions.
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