Tiger-Cats fire HC Marcel Bellefeuille

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http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=381618

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Tiger-Cats fire Head Coach Bellefeuille

Canadian Press
11/30/2011 3:42:37PM

HAMILTON, Ont. - The Hamilton Tiger-Cats fired head coach Marcel Bellefeuille on Wednesday, less than two weeks after the CFL team came up short in the East Division final against Winnipeg.

Bellefeuille guided the 8-10 Ticats to a third-place finish in the East Division this season. Hamilton upset the Montreal Alouettes in the East semifinal before dropping a 19-3 decision to the Blue Bombers with a berth in the Grey Cup game on the line.
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I was a little shocked at this move. I thought they were moving forward. But the loss to the bombers was disappointing from their standpoint as it looked like they didn't show up and were not at all prepared to play the Bombers. Especially when you consider the result against the Als.

Hamilton
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all getting new HC's. Could be an interesting season in 2012 with the turn over of the old guard in the coaching ranks.
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Interesting. The Lions' convincing win the Grey Cup obviously not only impacted Barresi, but likely played a part in the firing of Bellefeuille as well. Had the Bombers knocked off the Lions last Sunday, the 19-3 loss in the freezing cold may not have been viewed as harshly.


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The off season is less than 3 days old and there's been alot of changes. Didn't see this move coming
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This is what happens when you hang your hat on player personnel who are decent but not great. Kevin Glenn/Quinton Porter are not the QB's for success of the TiCats. They would have been better ages ago to start working towards a new younger batch of QB's. They have many other of pieces they need but without a good pivot, they will continue to be mired in mediocrity. What is next for the TiCats? Wouldn't be at all surprised at them being players in the Henry Burris Sweepstakes. Another aging QB whose best before date is behind him. At least is Burris if given his walking papers, he has the ring for credentials. Mind you so did Marcus Crandell and a worse Grey Cup QB, I can't remember in recent times.

I think that the Cats are starting to hit the wall. They improved a lot when Obie first came over. He did a lot of that improving by pilfering Lions players that were either prospects or cast off starters. People that he had background with. Those resources have run dry so the Cats are going to have to improve by finding their own talent.
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Perry Lefko is stating that Benevides is to be interviewed for the Riders head coaching job and more than likely with the Ticats for theirs now too, although his article does talk more about O'Shea going to the Ticats.

Not much call it seems for Dickenson of late for a HC job? His name was bandied about earlier on in the season, but not seeing it much in the fishwraps now. Does the lack of success down the stretch hurt his chances?
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Mind you so did Marcus Crandell and a worse Grey Cup QB, I can't remember in recent times.
I'll see your Marcus Crandell and raise you a Ryan Dinwiddie.

Obie has to have someone in mind for the job, because this move seems unusual to me. My perception of the Ti-Cats is that they were on the rise.
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I would be very surprised if Wally does not move to GM and appoint Mike Benevides as the Lions' Head Coach. It looks like Benny will be a Head Coach somewhere next year.

In regard to Bellefeuille, football coaches for the most part are "hired to be fired." If you don't win the Cup or get to the big game in less than a handful of years, time to move on, it seems.

If Mike B is Head Coach here, does Jacques stay here? He may well get some HC offers too. Or even go back to HC at college. Who knows?

Wally will have to decide fast, and act fast with his own status, and then take some action with his coaching staff here.
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WestCoastJoe wrote:I would be very surprised if Wally does not move to GM and appoint Mike Benevides as the Lions' Head Coach. It looks like Benny will be a Head Coach somewhere next year.

In regard to Bellefeuille, football coaches for the most part are "hired to be fired." If you don't win the Cup or get to the big game in less than a handful of years, time to move on, it seems.

If Mike B is Head Coach here, does Jacques stay here? He may well get some HC offers too. Or even go back to HC at college. Who knows?

Wally will have to decide fast, and act fast with his own status, and then take some action with his coaching staff here.
Wally won't have to act fast if he knows his new HC (should he decide to move to GM alone) already, and has a DC in mind....

With that said, I heard the TEAM 1040 bandy about Dave Dickenson's name as a possible HC with both Benevides and Chapdelaine staying put. Continuity would be great, not sure about both OC and DC being cool with that move, especially the latter.
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cromartie wrote:
Mind you so did Marcus Crandell and a worse Grey Cup QB, I can't remember in recent times.
I'll see your Marcus Crandell and raise you a Ryan Dinwiddie.

Obie has to have someone in mind for the job, because this move seems unusual to me. My perception of the Ti-Cats is that they were on the rise.
TBH with you, I thought the TiCats were poorly coached, and far to inconsistent for their level of talent, for the last 2 yrs they were supposed to push up on the Al's and instead have finished at .500.

They also jettisoned Mann and Bruce inseason, which made little sense.
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Rammer wrote:
WestCoastJoe wrote:I would be very surprised if Wally does not move to GM and appoint Mike Benevides as the Lions' Head Coach. It looks like Benny will be a Head Coach somewhere next year.

In regard to Bellefeuille, football coaches for the most part are "hired to be fired." If you don't win the Cup or get to the big game in less than a handful of years, time to move on, it seems.

If Mike B is Head Coach here, does Jacques stay here? He may well get some HC offers too. Or even go back to HC at college. Who knows?

Wally will have to decide fast, and act fast with his own status, and then take some action with his coaching staff here.
Wally won't have to act fast if he knows his new HC (should he decide to move to GM alone) already, and has a DC in mind....

With that said, I heard the TEAM 1040 bandy about Dave Dickenson's name as a possible HC with both Benevides and Chapdelaine staying put. Continuity would be great, not sure about both OC and DC being cool with that move, especially the latter.
I can't see DD over Mike B at this time, Rammer. I would consider that a misjudgment on Wally's part. Especially because I can't see Mike B and Jacques being content in that situation.

Wally may be running out of options. Let's say he decides to stay as HC/GM. Mike B would probably take another HC job IMO. And Jacques just might get a HC offer somewhere as well. Where would that leave Wally with his coaching staff. It seems to me that Mike B has been very loyal to Wally. Turned down the Argo's job three years ago.

If Mike B jumps the gun and takes a HC job somewhere else, then Wally might consider Dave D, or even Jacques for HC.

Wally has to decide and act fast IMO.

HC jobs do not come open all that often. And also Mike B, Jacques and Dave D are pretty darn good candidates for an HC job.
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Well with Toronto off the list of vacancies, that leaves 2 HC jobs open atm:

-Saskatchewan
-Hamilton

But maybe 5-6 Offencive Coordinator Jobs opening up, heard the Riders like Dickenson for that post, but also think hamilton fired Marcel B because they wanted to move on their guy quickly.

Mike B maybe? He'd fit in Hamilton but Jacque C would also make sense for them as well.

You are correct WCJ, Wally B will have to decide somewhat quickly, imo, he should stay on as HC as we are heading into turmoil in terms of losing FA's.
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cromartie wrote:
Mind you so did Marcus Crandell and a worse Grey Cup QB, I can't remember in recent times.
I'll see your Marcus Crandell and raise you a Ryan Dinwiddie.

Obie has to have someone in mind for the job, because this move seems unusual to me. My perception of the Ti-Cats is that they were on the rise.
DInwiddie didn't win the GC. But there have been other winning QBs who have been pretty mediocre. Anyone remember Sean Salisbury?
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WestCoastJoe wrote:Wally will have to decide fast, and act fast with his own status...
He mentioned on 1040 today that that decision will be made before he takes his annual Hawaiian vacation. No doubt he's well aware of openings around the league and can't afford to linger until the hiring pool thins out.
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